Server Suggestion Chop Shop NPC

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Discussion Post: https://perpheads.com/threads/chop-shop-npc.33914/

Main Idea: Add a Chop Shop NPC to sell stolen cars to for an okay payout.

Full description of the idea:
Adding a Chop Shop NPC somewhere on the map, possibly within the scrapyard (not like anyone uses it anyway) where you can get a decent amount of money for risking stealing somebody’s car (a very small percentage of the initial price of the vehicle). At the moment there’s no real point in stealing peoples cars unless you advertise that you’re selling a car matching its description where they can buy it back, although most of the time they just ignore the message because they’re like “I’ll get it back later, no worries I just hope they don’t wreck it”.

Obviously the payout would have to be small such as 0.75% of the initial price which I think sits quite well, not too much money and more expensive cars would realistically give you a higher pay out, more expensive cars are also rare so you won’t see people getting lots of money from stealing Bugatti’s all the time.

You would obviously be able to get your car back afterwards, possibly having to pay a small insurance cost when receiving your vehicle from the garage again.

Add a cool down between chopping cars so people don’t just constantly steal cars over and over.

Why should it be added?: At the moment stealing cars is kinda useless and if you try and sell them back to the owner you very rarely get a response, the car security upgrade is also very rarely used and kinda pointless at the moment.

I know lots of people have been wanting legal methods of making money but like @Taylor said it’s much better than just sitting still watching YouTube in your steam overlay for 40 minutes checking on your drugs now and then.

Pros:
-Another way to make money
-Makes the ability to steal cars more useful
-More calls for police to respond to
-Gives the vehicle security upgrade that you can buy more of a use since 99% of the time it’s unused at the moment
-Better illegal way to make money instead of just sitting still checking up on your drugs now and then (@Taylor)

Cons:
-Could be a hassle to code it all in
-As someone said this might mean there’s loads of people just looking for cars to steal, possibly make a lower payout because of this
-Could be money farmed with friends as @Creepis pointed out but @Taylor also suggested not being about to chop the same persons car for an hour or so

Other additions: If the NPC does end up being in scrapyard obviously people could just drive straight there and could a payout easily, this means that there should be some sort of cool down for you to lay low before you go chop the car, this’ll make sure people don’t just constantly chop cars and increases the chances of police catching them.
 
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Discussion Post: https://perpheads.com/threads/chop-shop-npc.33914/

Main Idea: Add a Chop Shop NPC to sell stolen cars to for an okay payout.

Full description of the idea:
Adding a Chop Shop NPC somewhere on the map, possibly within the scrapyard (not like anyone uses it anyway) where you can get a decent amount of money for risking stealing somebody’s car (a very small percentage of the initial price of the vehicle). At the moment there’s no real point in stealing peoples cars unless you advertise that you’re selling a car matching its description where they can buy it back, although most of the time they just ignore the message because they’re like “I’ll get it back later, no worries I just hope they don’t wreck it”.

Obviously the payout would have to be small such as 0.75% of the initial price which I think sits quite well, not too much money and more expensive cars would realistically give you a higher pay out, more expensive cars are also rare so you won’t see people getting lots of money from stealing Bugatti’s all the time.

You would obviously be able to get your car back afterwards, possibly having to pay a small insurance cost when receiving your vehicle from the garage again.

Add a cool down between chopping cars so people don’t just constantly steal cars over and over.

Why should it be added?: At the moment stealing cars is kinda useless and if you try and sell them back to the owner you very rarely get a response, the car security upgrade is also very rarely used and kinda pointless at the moment.

I know lots of people have been wanting legal methods of making money but like @Taylor said it’s much better than just sitting still watching YouTube in your steam overlay for 40 minutes checking on your drugs now and then.

Pros:
-Another way to make money
-Makes the ability to steal cars more useful
-More calls for police to respond to
-Gives the vehicle security upgrade that you can buy more of a use since 99% of the time it’s unused at the moment
-Better illegal way to make money instead of just sitting still checking up on your drugs now and then (@Taylor)

Cons:
-Could be a hassle to code it all in
-As someone said this might mean there’s loads of people just looking for cars to steal, possibly make a lower payout because of this
-Could be money farmed with friends as @Creepis pointed out but @Taylor also suggested not being about to chop the same persons car for an hour or so

Other additions: If the NPC does end up being in scrapyard obviously people could just drive straight there and could a payout easily, this means that there should be some sort of cool down for you to lay low before you go chop the car, this’ll make sure people don’t just constantly chop cars and increases the chances of police catching them.

+ Support

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I'd go deaf every time I would set foot on the server from all the cars being broken in to. Honestly if a Chop Shop was added there would be a huge crowd there and the unhappy car owners and Police would just camp there and wait for the sweatervests who jacked their cars with looted crowbars would just get shot.

I don't see how this is going to work.
 
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+support

Actually makes it worth your time to steal cars instead of just stealing them for a drive.
 
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-support

One of the major factors of perp is the economy and how much effort goes into earning money and by making an easy way to earn thousands would ruin that valuable economy which Perpheads has been using for years. Sorry I cannot support this and would be extremely surprised if it was accepted.
 
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I like the idea, I would love it if you could do something else with stolen cars.

However the big problem for me in this suggestion is how the payout works. From a realistic perspective it is normal for a tesla to earn you more money than a mini cooper, but for the sake of preserving gameplay I'd rather have the system not be so realistic.

0,75% of a Mini is 263$ while 0,75% of a 3M vehicle is 22.5k. The thing is stealing a mini or tesla has the same difficulty, it does not take more crowbar tries for one or the other. Yes, more expensive cars may be protected more by their owners, but personally when I steal a car it's because no one is around, doesn't matter which car it is.

So the payout difference is HUGE when it's equally difficult to steal both minis or teslas. In fact, I would even argue that it's way easier to steal a Tesla than some minicooper because of the tesla's speed, while if you steal a minicooper you will take ages to run away from the scene and good luck outrunning anyone chasing you.

I can even foresee situations like a raid in office where the big boys are growing drugs, they die and lose, police leaves, smart boys come in with crowbars and start stealing the big boys' expensive cars, because they're dead anyway.

Btw let's be real, there are loads of expensive cars on the server. They're not "rarer".
 
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I can either be another one of those "don't change anything" noobs or just support change and additional features.

This will give use to jacking cars other than joyriding, it'll be an easy way to make money, police can do more stolen car roleplay...

I support this idea.
 
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I appreciate your responses, obviously my suggestion isn’t 100% final and don’t mind if it’s changed accordingly if it is accepted so instead of saying what’s wrong with the suggestion, maybe say what can make it better?
 

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  1. Go to chop shop NPC
  2. There is a list of 3-5 cars (randomly generated for each user,) that the chop shop dealer wants
  3. steal one or several of these cars and return to him with it
  4. sell the car
  5. the chop shop npc will then text you when he's looking for new stuff
this is a method to reduce people conspiring to abuse the system and to make sure that people don't know which cars are the targets.
 
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I'd like to see this. Something simple to encourage criminal activity. It was previously denied by an inactive dev for:
Going to move this to denied now.

More ideas of how to earn legal money, when you aren't growing drugs would be welcomed but things that encourage more criminal behavior or ideas of what would be considered "easy money" I don't see as necessary presently. There are plenty of reasons as to why the bank robbery presently doesn't give out too much money, so having more things that can give out thousands of $ in an instant, no thanks.
There can easily be a cooldown, I'm sure @TinySlayer can think of something creative to make it enjoyable to encourage criminal rp like the bank robbery revamp. Even if it was 10-15k for it youd cover the cost of crowbars. Maybe make stolen cars easy to see by hazard and head lights flashing constantly with the horn beeping. The car alarm is too loud for it to be on constantly maybe a new one could make it better.
 

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NPC could be easily placed at the junkyard, don't see this as a problem as long as cars are not gone permanently, just on a cooldown.
 
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I like the idea, I would love it if you could do something else with stolen cars.

However the big problem for me in this suggestion is how the payout works. From a realistic perspective it is normal for a tesla to earn you more money than a mini cooper, but for the sake of preserving gameplay I'd rather have the system not be so realistic.

0,75% of a Mini is 263$ while 0,75% of a 3M vehicle is 22.5k. The thing is stealing a mini or tesla has the same difficulty, it does not take more crowbar tries for one or the other. Yes, more expensive cars may be protected more by their owners, but personally when I steal a car it's because no one is around, doesn't matter which car it is.

So the payout difference is HUGE when it's equally difficult to steal both minis or teslas. In fact, I would even argue that it's way easier to steal a Tesla than some minicooper because of the tesla's speed, while if you steal a minicooper you will take ages to run away from the scene and good luck outrunning anyone chasing you.

I can even foresee situations like a raid in office where the big boys are growing drugs, they die and lose, police leaves, smart boys come in with crowbars and start stealing the big boys' expensive cars, because they're dead anyway.

Btw let's be real, there are loads of expensive cars on the server. They're not "rarer".
What if we add a timer, a timer that determines when will the thief receive his reward, the more expensive the car is the longer the timer is, the bigger the risk. if the cops or the owner comes in and stops the operation before the timer of the car getting scrapped ends he will retrieve his car.
 

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What if we add a timer, a timer that determines when will the thief receive his reward, the more expensive the car is the longer the timer is, the bigger the risk. if the cops or the owner comes in and stops the operation before the timer of the car getting scrapped ends he will retrieve his car.
Tiny would suprise us im sure
 

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Not a bad idea, but it's a lot safer to sell cars in parts as entire cars are super easy to track irl
Otherwise people wouldn't be able to buy scrapyard anymore and my lizard lick towing destination as RC is ruined!
 

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Otherwise people wouldn't be able to buy scrapyard anymore and my lizard lick towing destination as RC is ruined!
Get rid of scrappies, readd farm, just remove farm ladders and add some stairs instead
 
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