Ban Dispute (Matthew)

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Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Matthew
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 1 Week

Your Steam Name: Hank Schrader
Your Roleplay Name: Harry Thompson
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:130713758

Why were you punished?: 2.5, 5.1 - User killed another player who was not posing a threat to him, because he thought he was holding a gun when he wasn't. User also mugged someone in a non-muggable zone.

Why should this appeal be considered?: First off, i dont understand how i mugged someone in unmuggable area?
if im not mistaken, this is where i mugged someone, in a yellow area like most of forest?

And for the player i killed, i believed he posed a threat to me in the moment, and i believe that i had reasonable reason to believe so.

This is why:
I know that someone is in the trunk, since i saw someone crawl in there. When i then come over to the other side of the car to gp the guy in the trunk, i see he is already sneaking out, and i glimpse something that looked like a pistol, or maybe like the barrel of one of those sawed of db´s. (turned out to just be the wrist on that costume thing or whatever)
Then to me it looks like he is like strafing back and fourth and side to side, or something like that. This to me seems like he is trying to peek out and get a shot in at me, and having just seen what i thought was a gun made me believe it even more.

And if im not mistaken again, you hold your pistols in your right hand, so if he had one it wouldnt be visible to me when i then was at the front center of the trunk and i told him to come out from the front, so i thought he would at any time aim it and shoot.
this right here
Also when i commaned him to come out, there is a solid 3 seconds, or something like that, where he doesnt come out and does the moonwalking strafing looking thing.
 


Amended

As stated above, you cannot mug people by the Halloween NPC at Traveler's Motel. This, however, was only mentioned in an OOC message (and from time to time through the help chat by staff members), so it is understandable that some people are not aware of this. Considering these circumstances, we will remove the 5.1 part of your punishment and reduce the time to 5 days.

As for the person you killed in the back of the van, we understand the disguise confused you, but it is your responsibility to ensure someone is a threat before shooting them and, like you yourself point out, you opened fire guessing he had a gun on his right hand, not having any sort of real confirmation. All the person was trying to do was leave the van. The punishment reason already contains the accidental nature of your actions, so we will not be modifying that part.

@Tilin @Lucius Husky
 
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