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Yugoslavia was okay too. Very democratic decision making over the means of production. Politically not so great.
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Liberal democracies have prevailed. Read Huntingdons clash of civilisations and Fukuyama end of history.
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Capitalism and liberal don't go together. 62 people who are apparently not lazy have as much as 50% of the world. Panama Leaks just show how the world works. Not honest work makes you rich. It is exploitation and blalant abuse of the working class, and leaders assist in it.
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The current surge of nationalism in Europe is another side-effect of the apparent working so called representative democracy under the rule of the kapital. People get fed up by obvious exploitation of the ruling class. But 50 years of oppressive so called socialism and neo-liberal propaganda makes them swing to the hard right-wing.
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So it's rather simple, the fight between ideologies is far from over, capitalism is either going to abolished, or reformed, because it is not meant to have infinite growth.
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Just shows how you actually can't have an discussion about a more serious topic than anal beads.
Pear
Pear
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That's why I actually shoot Duffy last, he at least defends his views.
Pear
Pear
Trande shh shh, we know you're deluded into believing "true" Communism is possible. Now please leave...
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You should better go on with explaining your statement?
Pear
Pear
So you think that everyone would help each other? Yet you say Capitalism is dysfunctional because of exploitation of the working class. That's the exact reason why Communism will never work. People always exploit each other; people who've attempted communism look what happened. World Communism will never work because people want to reach higher and reach for the stars.
Pear
Pear
Whats the point if you a job that need years and years of training like a Doctor, earn the same amount as a toilet cleaner. You would feel undervalued and then what's the point of even trying to become that job. So there. Better dead than red.
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Dude, just shows how you didn't even read a single text about communism. A toilet cleaner wouldn't get as much as a doctor, because money would become obsolete. Communist-ish societies existed in the pre-historic and in ancient Greece. Why? Because it's human nature to help each other. Yeah, it's not to kick someone in the face, if he's shit at something.
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Studies show how kids at the age of 1 to 2 show the characteristics of a social person which does help you, without asking for anything back. So it's engraved in our brains, it's our current society which needs you to perform non-social actions to see greater sucess. And the misconception of people always exploiting each other is sad.
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You simply wouldn't be able to achieve anything with exploiting fellow men and women, because you only achieve something by working together. Which should be known to you, because even you have friends, I suppose. So, you didn't even bother to even read the most simple definition of communism, but still you try to disprove it.
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You simply spit in the face of people who are actually currently dying for their idea of a better world (Rojava)
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All you said is that you're not willing to be a social person. So I'm sorry for you living in this litte box.
Pear
Pear
Tell me someone who is dying for a better world of communism.
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Kurdish YPG and YPJ fighters in Syria, PKK fighters in Turkey are dying for democratic confederalism, which I would explain as a very interesting alternative to the world. The problem with socialism and communism is that the idea is over 140 years old. Democratic confederalism is like refined communism, and it's currently working.
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