Ban Dispute (Scrabuz)

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Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Scrabuz
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 1 Week

Your Steam Name: Idontknow..?
Your Roleplay Name: James Jhonson
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:422923707

Why were you punished?: 5.1 user raided the same property within 30 minutes

Why should this appeal be considered?: I believe this was a mix-up as this was just based of logs i had just defended a pd raid and went into my property where two people were inside Mohammed never told me they were living there and so i mugged them at least tried to then my friend got off leading to me getting my org together to raid it as i no longer live there so i only raided it one time.
 
The property you defended in the PD raid, was that the property you're in, in that clip?
 
i used to have planters in there and everything and you can clearly see me bringing in my team mates who are cuffed???
 
All i know is you were in my base using the privilige of your keys, pointing a gun at me telling me to put my hands up.

Furthermore you got KIA, afterwards came back 30 minutes later to raid again.

Here is a clip of you attempting a raid:

and no you had no planters with us as far as i know.
 
Key raiding is also a thing, and thats what you did.

Subs 2 originally belonged to me, Pen Liza.

If further explanation required i can give.
i was with Mohamed when he bought the property and since i still had keys it was still his property?
 
Subs 2 belongs to me, not to mohammed and logs will show right now i own it :D and i owned it back then too not mohammad.

Still this does not make a difference, you raided the same property twice within a hour using key priviliges.
 
All i know is you were in my base using the privilige of your keys, pointing a gun at me telling me to put my hands up.

Furthermore you got KIA, afterwards came back 30 minutes later to raid again.

Here is a clip of you attempting a raid:

and no you had no planters with us as far as i know.
so at this time it was your base? and no i didnt have planters as we had moved into subs 4 as staying in subs 2 would lead to 3.4 staying in a property after a pd raid which we defended a lot of
 
Involved(ish)

Admins told us in OOC that we couldn't stay in Suburbs 2 as it would be a breach of 3.4 after we had wiped PD, we moved to Suburbs 4 but then raided 2 later when it was owned by someone new.
 
Subs 2 belonged to me throughout the whole incidents, in the first and and the last raid as well, but again, this does not make a difference.

You have raided the same property/player twice within a hour, which is a hard breach of 5.3 in my opinion and i'll let staff review it.

With my best regards,
Pen
 
All i know is you were in my base using the privilige of your keys, pointing a gun at me telling me to put my hands up.

Furthermore you got KIA, afterwards came back 30 minutes later to raid again.

Here is a clip of you attempting a raid:

and no you had no planters with us as far as i know.
i would like to add the bit where you broke gunpoint is trimmed off...
 
Subs 2 belonged to me throughout the whole incidents, in the first and and the last raid as well, but again, this does not make a difference.

You have raided the same property/player twice within a hour, which is a hard breach of 5.3 in my opinion and i'll let staff review it.

With my best regards,
Pen
not a raid i had keys and you were in my house {mohhameds} so i tryed to mug you
 
Subs 2 belonged to me throughout the whole incidents, in the first and and the last raid as well, but again, this does not make a difference.

You have raided the same property/player twice within a hour, which is a hard breach of 5.3 in my opinion and i'll let staff review it.

With my best regards,
Pen

We didn't raid you the first time? (I can only speak for myself here) we defended a PD raid because Mohammed had DNA, which resulted in PD being wiped and then us moving to 4. I didn't raid 2 with the others so that's as far as my input can be offered but hopefully it gives some context.
 
There is no breaking of gunpoint, you have killed my friend and i had a chance to run to cover while you did that, used it to my advantage since i had cover and had no direct gunpoint :)

I do have a clip of it as well.

If you think i broke 3.4, show a clip of it and let staff review it.

Thank you.
 
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