Police Suggestion Be able to confiscate crowbars

hyushi123 · Tuesday at 9:34 AM

Suggestion Title: Be able to confiscate crowbars
Suggestion Description: allow officers to confiscate EQUIPPED crowbars only so you dont have to unhandcuff the suspect to force them to drop it.

Why should this be added?:
- qol
- makes life 100% easier

What negatives could this have?:
- none that i can think of

What problem would this suggestion solve?: nopt being able to confiscate crowbars that have been used during a raid

Locksmith · Tuesday at 9:39 AM

When creating a suggestion, actually try to think of negatives that could occur as a result of the suggestion, there are a few that sprung straight to mind upon reading this, these are
- Sweaters cops will mistakenly confiscate crowbars thinking they are an illegal item to have, which is not the case unless used in a crime
-You only need to confiscate one for a crime typically, however when you search someone, you take the entire stack of that item, as such this will result in crowbars that are not illegal to possess and haven't been used being taken.

hyushi123 · Tuesday at 9:42 AM

Locksmith said:
-You only need to confiscate one for a crime typically, however when you search someone, you take the entire stack of that item

thats why i suggested confiscating only the eqipped ones. about the sweater cops you could make this to be a feauture only for SO+

Goonsberg · Tuesday at 10:25 AM

no one trusts SOs enough for this

If accepted would need to be cpl+

Goblin · Tuesday at 10:27 AM

Goonsberg said:
no one trusts SOs enough for this

What's the difference between confiscating weapons and crowbars?

Locksmith · Tuesday at 10:30 AM

Goblin said:
What's the difference between confiscating weapons and crowbars?

There are a significant amount of situations in which weapons are considered to be illegal, such as illegal displayal/ transport, use in crimes etc, Crowbars are typically less defined in the situations that make them illegal to possess.

Goonsberg · Tuesday at 10:32 AM

Goblin said:
What's the difference between confiscating weapons and crowbars?

Requires using investigatory skills to work out if it’s being used illegally. Majority of SOs don’t use these skills.

Guns on the other hand all go pew pew. If in public, that’s mine.

Goblin · Tuesday at 10:32 AM

Locksmith said:
There are a significant amount of situations in which weapons are considered to be illegal, such as illegal displayal/ transport, use in crimes etc, Crowbars are typically less defined in the situations that make them illegal to possess.

Ye if an SO has the ability to confiscate guns since he can search people why not the equipped ones it's not like an SO is braindead

Goonsberg · Tuesday at 10:36 AM

Goblin said:
Ye if an SO has the ability to confiscate guns since he can search people why not the equipped ones it's not like an SO is braindead

Not all SOs, but lots.

Goblin · Tuesday at 10:37 AM

Goonsberg said:
Not all SOs, but lots.

Then don't give them SO?

Isn't SO meant to be the more experienced officers?

ALOO89 · Tuesday at 10:52 AM

hyushi123 said:
What negatives could this have?:
- none that i can think of

if i have 7 crowbars how would u confiscaid 1 + what the players have reply to you sweater issue etc

Goblin said:
Isn't SO meant to be the more experienced officers

not really because anyone can get it easy it's just multiple choice

Goonsberg · Tuesday at 11:18 AM

Goblin said:
Then don't give them SO?

Isn't SO meant to be the more experienced officers?

Yes, however, in reality they cannot be trusted.

SadBoy · Tuesday at 11:29 AM

I agree with others regarding this most likely causing problems with unlawful confiscation. I agree it does take a little extra time, but none more so than having a suspect drop a weapon for us to check if it has been fired etc, it's a part of the investigation and as such part of the RP with being a cop.

Sindarin · Tuesday at 11:45 AM

There is a internal discussion going on within SMT about if crowbars should be illegal by default or not, I will post the result here, and there result of that will determine the result of this suggestion

MalekIsWeird · Tuesday at 11:26 PM

A senior officer is not a hard role to get by any means. Nor do you have to put in any effort to maintain it, nor do you need to have consistently outstanding policy knowledge for it.

CPL+ NEED to because that's well-known to be part of what they grade people on every single month when they do their required ORs, which is why they are far more trust-worthy.

Sindarin · 2024-12-26T01:07:42+0000

Crowbar confiscation is circumstantial

Police Suggestion Be able to confiscate crowbars

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