Server Suggestion Create roleplay bases unraidable

What about mugging? Because if you can't mug in these areas it a problem

Inchs said:

What about mugging? Because if you can't mug in these areas it a problem

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Why would it be a problem? I would also suggest that it is a unraidable and unmuggable place.

I assume it would show something when you look at the door stating its an rp base

I don’t really think this is much of an issue if I’m not lying, most roleplay bases either

A. Are secretly growing drugs, whereby they deserve to be raided.

B. They aren’t growing drugs and then the only people who really raid them are new players.

Furthermore, I feel as though stealth basing as a roleplay base would be annoying. This would force players to check doors of bases to see if it’s a roleplay base which is more work, unrealistic and just nerfs raiders. In some areas such as the forest you could also be mugged while checking this.

If you really don’t want to be raided while roleplaying, just setup a metal detector or be armed.

I see more cons than pros for this suggestion. In theory it sounds good but in reality it sounds annoying. Either it would create significantly more rule breaks by people raiding it or people abusing the system. (Potentially also more staff work/reports to setup your base as a “Roleplay Base”)

If you try and disrupt a nice roleplay moment by mugging everyone in the property I'm banning you for 2.5 pretty much

exrobite said:

If you try and disrupt a nice roleplay moment by mugging everyone in the property I'm banning you for 2.5 pretty much

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im definity gonna mug everybody

Why not take the opportunity to use spaces of the map for RP events? There are loads of cool places like the beach that are going unused. What kinds of other RP events are happening in basing properties I'm curious?

mimeyy said:

Why not take the opportunity to use spaces of the map for RP events? There are loads of cool places like the beach that are going unused. What kinds of other RP events are happening in basing properties I'm curious?

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Church events

Tarone Idrin (mohammed) said:

Church events

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In the past things such as weddings have been helped by the PD to create a secure environment, as big events often are irl. I think that is a better route than making it an administrative issue.

mimeyy said:

Why not take the opportunity to use spaces of the map for RP events? There are loads of cool places like the beach that are going unused. What kinds of other RP events are happening in basing properties I'm curious?

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Cause its a Serious Roleplay server, not Cops and Robbers.
So why limit the people who actually want to roleplay (the one thing the server was meant for) and have the people whom prefer cops and robbers roam freely.

The easiest way to negate any false claims of "I didn't know this was a roleplay base" or them growing drugs on the property is to have the people whom want to do such type of roleplay have their doors unlocked and actually build like a living room in their apartment.
Having the doors open will show potential raiders that there are no raidable goods inside.
As for Tidals with the backrooms, If the doors are open you can interact with the home-owner if he is inside and just ask him to come in without necessarily having to gunpoint him straight away.
When V5 was still used I had multiple times where I accidentally raided a locked slums apartment that was used for roleplay, all inside doors were unlocked just the entry door was locked. as soon as I noticed that it was just meant for roleplay I left the house and apologized to the guy.
If the doors of a house/apartment are locked then yes, it will be raided obviously.
Renaming doors will be abused so that's not really an option unless you want to give staff more to look at in the logs.

exrobite said:

If you try and disrupt a nice roleplay moment by mugging everyone in the property I'm banning you for 2.5 pretty much

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When raiding an open base that clearly has no drugs or anything inside should be classified as 2.5 & 3.4 (3.4 for them not really gaining anything from it yet they are risking their freedom/life as cops will most likely be alerted)

Goose. said:

people who really raid them are new players.

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trust me they're not, a lot of 'sweaty' players grab the chance if presented with it, tbf can't blame them it's essentially free stuff that isn't against the rules, so i think that implementing something along these lines would fix it quite a lot

Yes please its quite stupid how people who are actually trying to roleplay get fucked over by some sweaty crim mains like @Cody Sharpe and his church RP for example. its pretty pathetic

Why not punish players who mug/raid/disturb obvious passive RP players while in their passive RP areas/activities?
Or even create an admin-granted entity that triggers the message "You are in a Passive RP zone, mugging/raiding/killing players involved in it will result in kick/ban"
They would have to make an F6 defining their passive-RP area and have an admin spawn that entity there,, similar to prop limit extensions.
To prevent time-wasters the requesters must show some proof of it having already built the area, at least partially.

alexandrovich said:

Why not punish players who mug/raid/disturb obvious passive RP players while in their passive RP areas/activities?
Or even create an admin-granted entity that triggers the message "You are in a Passive RP zone, mugging/raiding/killing players involved in it will result in kick/ban"
They would have to make an F6 defining their passive-RP area and have an admin spawn that entity there,, similar to prop limit extensions.
To prevent time-wasters the requesters must show some proof of it having already built the area, at least partially.

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This sounds horrible for staff im not gonna lie dont implement this. - if youre going to roleplay open all your doors and dont have stuff on you that people wanna take problem solved.

While the idea of a "legal base" system might be nice to preserve RP, and could probably be implemented via mechanics such as selecting when purchasing the property, and as such, disallowing chemical tables and planters on the property, I feel the larger issue is that the way the game is set up, residential properties have two actual purposes. Hiding from police, and growing drugs.

The reason bazaar is popular for people to make their little AFK social spots is cause it's unmuggable, sure, but also because it has utility as a shop or workshop, and it's social. A "legal base" base would have no real utility besides maybe crafting, if that were permitted. But if you only want a place to craft safely then that's why you buy a bazaar shop.

I don't think disallowing mugging in certain residential properties is the way to go. I think instead, have it so when there's more than three planters in a property, or a chemical table with either meth, or coke leaves on it, it's added to a list. At a certain org level, you can then text the dealer or another number, and pay 5k or so, and he'll give you an address of a property on that list. Have this able to be done by a person every two hours, so org members have to space out who does it. Perhaps at a higher org level he also tells you the organisation of the property owner, but not their name. I think this idea will focus most raids on properties that actually have something to be gained, so people don't end up raiding low-tier single-man bases or passiveRP bases, but still allowing mugging to be a real threat, as it should be.

I'm going to be honest, per isnt an RP server. I appreciate the fact that people actually still try to do that, however, perp is literally 80% shootouts and 20% RP and general criminal activity. If you want to RP properly, gmod is not it.

As for the suggestion, it would be nice to have such bases, however you need a visual item/object to indicate that its an RP base. For example you could make one of the subs houses like a coffee shop, but you need a custom sign that would indicate that.

Another important aspect is the potential for abuse. There should be added a specific section that would fall under the basing rule that would prevent you feom making any sort of profit from an RP base. What I mean by this is, it should be prohibited to make any form of drugs insude the suggested property.

I personally feel like this is going to be annoying to enforce because staff members would have to regulary check RP bases ro make sure they arent producing/making any money.,

Baba Won said:

Why would it be a problem? I would also suggest that it is a unraidable and unmuggable place.

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Kill enemy org member, go into RP base, now untouchable.

What RP do you want to do in properties that you can't do elsewhere?

Inchs said:

Kill enemy org member, go into RP base, now untouchable.

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This shouldn't be the case. A rule would be made against using RP bases in an illegal way, inclusive, possession of weaponry/drugs, hiding from players attempting to enact revenge or using the base to hide from cops when warranted.

Inchs said:

Kill enemy org member, go into RP base, now untouchable.

What RP do you want to do in properties that you can't do elsewhere?

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assuming the doors even are closed breaking into a property to kill someone wouldnt be considered raiding (or mugging). raiding is defined by "you are going in to get profit" nvm going in just for a kill is also a raid apparently, I must have remembered it wrong