Action Request (Sorle)

Your Steam Name: Sapire
Your Roleplay Name: Sapire Costello
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:224078163

Player's Steam Name: Sorle
Player's Roleplay Name: Charlie Sorle
Player's SteamID: STEAM_0:0:51990442

Why should this player be punished?: 2.5/3.4: The user break checked at the top of foundry and my car slightly collided with him not causing any serious damage, after this his friends drove up behind me and boxed me in and started ramming my vehicle demanding I pay for damages that were caused by them pointing guns trying to scam/kos bait. after I refused the scam the users all got out of their cars and shot my car and popped my tyers. This is one extremely risky for little gain shooting someones car with machine guns in the middle of bussiness but also complety unnecceary as little damage was caused and it was due to their errors which im sure were intentional.

Evidence Link: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mXUd0eMV01J-XShir?invite=cr-MSw2djksNjUzODcxMjUw

i dont know the guy who was behind you ramming you

you crashed into me then my friend as well and i gave you a way to get yourself out of the situation you got yourself into and you chose not to take it so i shot out your tyres which costs less than 2.5k to repair afaik so if anything its entirely proportional, i then immediately fled so not sure what the risk is, we knew exactly where your friends were and had people stationed by them watching their moves so this was executed to the absolute best of my ability and all precautions necessary were taken

forgot to add him and his friend driving on the wrong way on the highway and an AR my friend will be making of them pitting and gunning him down publicly https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mXT8vS04kFPRfPu-6?invite=cr-MSxRdDcsMjUyMjY0ODE&v=7

Sap Sapire said:

forgot to add him and his friend driving on the wrong way on the highway and an AR my friend will be making of them pitting and gunning him down publicly https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mXT8vS04kFPRfPu-6?invite=cr-MSxRdDcsMjUyMjY0ODE&v=7

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

if you want me to seriously respond to this i will but i think this just sums up this AR and the intent behind it if you're going to throw this on, please grow and change as a human being because this is pathetic

you break checking at the top of the hill is abundantly clear, I will let staff handle this and other ARs made, me being called the pathetic one when this is what you and your freinds are doing at 1:30 AM cause your bored no one is ever basing is kinda crazy

Sap Sapire said:

you break checking at the top of the hill is abundantly clear, I will let staff handle this and other ARs made, me being called the pathetic one when this is what you and your freinds are doing at 1:30 AM cause your bored no one is ever basing is kinda crazy

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sorry do you mean me breaking to give way to a car at a give way sign? drive like a real human being instead of tailgating

Might as well give an actual response because I'll need to eventually

My escalation was given in due course after a repeated demonstrated failure to not correct the mistakes of your reckless driving - being that you were tailgating me and therefore had no opportunity to break when I was giving way at a give way sign. We discussed this for minutes and you had repeated opportunities to pay for any damages caused and instead of doing that you chose not to and saw proportional consequences - with damages amounting to less money than I asked for. You attempted to flee the scene repeatedly and rammed into my friend's Tesla while attempting to do so, again in a reckless manner, causing further damage. The inconvenience caused by my actions was negligible, considering (as far as I know) you can get your tyres repaired in the business area, and even if you couldn't you could simply get the metro to city, respawn your vehicle, and repair them and be back to where you were within a few minutes.

I must also reiterate that I had absolutely no connection to the orange Lexus, and he acted on his own accord.

You alone failed to conduct yourself correctly in-character, and you alone faced extremely proportional consequences with no excessive escalation.

As I said, we had someone stationed at your friends' vehicle up on the hill, watching it for any response to our actions. After taking out your tyres, we promptly fled the scene and saw no consequences as a result. If this was the risk you claim, it would've left some trace at the scene of the crime or had some action taken regarding it by law enforcement, but it was very easy to perform and instantly leave and get away with.

Sap Sapire said:

forgot to add him and his friend driving on the wrong way on the highway and an AR my friend will be making of them pitting and gunning him down publicly https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mXT8vS04kFPRfPu-6?invite=cr-MSxRdDcsMjUyMjY0ODE&v=7

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As for this, our organisation member was stranded on the highway and I got the communication via TeamSpeak a little late, so I drove minimally on the wrong side of the highway to grab fuel cans for him, as we were actively pursuing someone and didn't want to lose him and his car was much faster than mine. Had full vision of people coming on the road and was short and not risking damages or our lives excessively. Very sad that you tack this on as an attempted "gotcha" when, being honest with yourself, you were entirely aware of the context as we were chasing one of your organisation members who was likely relaying that information to you, which was why you were tailing us to this point again.

As the rule 3.15 states:

You must always drive on the right side of the highway. You must drive vehicles - even if they are stolen - to the best of your ability so as to avoid crashes. There can be good reasons for not doing so, where the benefits outweigh the risks.

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Considering we were aware of how minimal the risks were at the time, with full vision of the oncoming traffic and knowing the roads were relatively empty, and the benefit was tangible and significant and directly led to us getting a hold of the person we were pursuing, I don't see how this is of any issue.

You are attempting to misrepresent the facts that you are well aware of in order to see me punished.

This is simply overt KOS bait. No damage was caused to any vehicles whatsoever by the G-Wagon's driving. Your own driving @Sorle left a lot to be desired. We are not averse to a whole insurance scam bit as it actively encourages roleplay opportunity, however no objective third-party could see you spraying out the G-Wagon's tires as a proportionate escalation as there was literally nothing to escalate from.


@Sorle you will be receiving a 2-day ban for 2.5. In addition, you will also be receiving a Forum Warning for forum rule 1.1 for your overt disrespectful behaviour towards people in the shoutbox when this Action Request was made, and also how you conducted yourself at the start of your responses to this. There is simply no reason for you to behave in such a manner towards other people commenting on the situation, whether they're involved or not, especially considering you yourself also like to offer your comments or thoughts on Action Requests and Disputes that do not directly concern you.

Reviewed with @Collier