Action Request (1878, gambit, mphf)

[Locksmith]

prior to liquid raiding us

Do you know which Liquid members had attempted to raid, Logs don't really show any kills from your side being Liquid members, at least from my knowledge anyways.

 

[Dom/1878]

Do you know which Liquid members had attempted to raid, Logs don't really show any kills from your side being Liquid members, at least from my knowledge anyways.

it may of been peaky blinders not liquid?

 

[ICEKILLER_99]

They were wearing light blue, maybe not liquid then

 

[Rowley]

Just to add to this, I don’t recall us being involved. Most likely peaky blinders.

 

[Locksmith]

@ICEKILLER_99 I will demo request yourself to get a POV of what was said by @Dom/1878 and others, as well confirming if the alleged raid on another office had occured and if your actions were justfied to do so or not. I may need to request more, so expect another popup.

 

[Locksmith]

Here is what I have found so far. The raid Icekiller had mentioned does indeed occur, he kills around 5-6 people including some police officers during that raid on Office 5, after the raid is concluded, he drags the weapons of his downed org members back into Office 6, closes it and locks it, whilst he has returned to his base, he can hear a player dragging a corpse inside the stairwell of the Office building, this at least in my opinion would justify his and his other org members beliefs that he may already have DNA and a warrant for his arrest, following on from that, there is a 1 man raid attempt, in which the individual is killed by Icekiller however there is no police response( not too relevant but thought Id mention it anyways). Then there is a large raid attempt on his Office 6, where he again kills around 4-5 players before taking weapons, whilst he is doing so, he hears @Dom/1878 begin speaking to an officer @Brian Hickman and as such runs into the property and hides in the storage area until the door has been locked and closed, where they assume it is safe to store and begin storing the firearms from the failed raid attempt.

Icekiller and Dom, I will be taking 1 more of your demo's each, as it does not show Ice killing Alek, which I do know occured, meaning I am still missing a bit of context.

@Brian Hickman and @Alek Benmarg Where did you see Icekiller? cause in this demo I reviewed, there is no line of sight that you had gained on him from his POV.

 

[Locksmith]

Reviewing several of their demos, it is clear that they had a reasonable belief that @ICEKILLER_99 was warranted from previous raids that had occured at Office, and as such putting the blame onto Wokdan didn't really serve any detriment to him, as it was believed he was already warranted, whilst this was not the case on this occasion, I don't really blame them for believing so given my findings in my previous reply, as they have no real way to confirm or deny if he was warranted at the time( as due to you being in close proximity, having a phone on Icekiller would be a risk, hence why he dropped it) The lie that was told was a way to shift blame from taking the guns and meant that yourself and Brian could not breach into the property with the things you knew at that point, as you allege you saw them, however in the demos reviewed, I do not see where you could have possibly seen Icekiller at any point here. Finally, Icekillers decision to push out was justified, as you allege you had evidence of Wokdan being inside of the property, meaning it was in his best interest to push out and possibly catch you by surprise, which it seems is what occurred here.