Ban Apology (Acrtius)

[will lionel]

Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Apology
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Acrtius
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 6 Months

Your Steam Name: jmrh
Your Roleplay Name: {will loinel}
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:876238867

Why were you punished?: 1.4, 2.5, 3.4 - User was part of a group that were instigating shootouts with police for seemingly no reason, with no initial felony attracting a sentence of 7+ years being made. The group were also killing Paramedics. Essentially MassRDM.

Why should this appeal be considered?: I am writing to clarify the situation regarding my ban issued by Acerius. There seems to be a misunderstanding of how the event transpired on my end.⁠
⁠1. Regarding Paramedics: I explicitly clarify that I did NOT shoot or kill any paramedics during this situation. I ask the staff team to please check the kill/damage logs to verify that I had no involvement in killing medical staff.⁠
⁠2. Regarding the Police Shootout: To clarify what happened: Me and two friends were initially detained by the police. A friend named Teddy arrived, shot the officers, and freed us. Following this, we were actively wanted with high sentence risks. However, I now understand that initiated shootouts with police officers simply for being wanted—without an active direct arrest attempt in progress—violates server rules (1.4 / 2.5 / 3.4).⁠
⁠This was a genuine misunderstanding of the escalation rules on my part. I assure you I had no intention of ruining RP or committing MassRDM. I request a review of the logs regarding the paramedic kill, and I hope for a reduction or removal of the ban as I now fully understand the rules.

Additional Information: please check the logs for damage dealt to paramedics and police.

 

[Dom/1878]

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/nlpsxkJBbUtizcT3K?invite=cr-MSxaaFAsNDIwNDA3NjI2
this is you shooting at me for what reason? i disabled ur car as ur escaping with a cuffed person who hasnt committed a crime too my knowledge, u then shoot at me for attempting too escape with a person. u then went too city hall and killed us after respawning, for 0 reason as we all had nlr and knew nothing about u shooting cops

 

[will lionel]

Why I shot at you initially: My vehicle was completely disabled and I had a visible heavy weapon on my back while escorting a freed individual. Surrendering was not an option because it meant losing my gear and facing high-tier felony charges. I engaged to protect my freedom and weapons.
Regarding NLR & the City Hall situation: I did not break NLR to avenge my previous life. The interaction at City Hall was a completely fresh incident. I shot at that moment because allowing you to cuff us at City Hall would have immediately triggered a system/radio check, revealing our active warrants and linking us to the prior charges. I acted purely in the moment to prevent an immediate arrest and protect my gear, not because of remembered events from a past life.

 

[fatgirllover]

Once again involved, surrendering was indeed your only option, as 1. you shouldn't really have gotten involved, you didn't know what he was even being detained for, and 2. you only committed possession of an offensive weapon (2 years) and aiding and abetting (5 years), which is not enough reason to kill cops over as they are regarded as minor crimes. Regarding City Hall, why were you there in the first place? You had just been broken out of jail, and your first thought was to walk to 4 government employees who are required, per server rules, to snitch on you, as they had witnessed the entire ordeal and just loitered around in the area visibly armed, waiting for cops so you could see a gunfight? Your responses have to be AI because everything you say makes zero sense; you being cuffed does NOT trigger a radio alert. You shooting a cop, however, alerts every government worker online that said cop has been shot. And as mentioned in the other reply I made in your friend's thread, you then decided to stay in the area as another gunfight broke out when more of your friends showed up to kill the new batch of responding cops. You had zero regard for your safety & life; if you had escaped to a safe property or literally anywhere other than City Hall this would never have happened.

 

[fatgirllover]

I didn't even remember this part. During the initial shootout, whilst your friend was actively shooting police through the PD front door, instead of running away, you decided to walk back into the PD whilst cuffed, providing cover as some form of a meat shield for your friend, who was actively shooting cops, making it impossible for cops to kill him, as you probably knew it breaks policy.

 

[will lionel]

Regarding detaining without reason: If you did not know what my associate's crimes were, why were you detaining him in the first place?
Why I engaged initially: As I stated, I was harboring a wanted individual, actively escaping the police, and carrying a heavy weapon on my back. All three are severe felony reasons that would result in heavy jail time. I acted entirely out of necessity to avoid arrest and retain my equipment.
Regarding the "Meat Shield" claim: I was not acting as a meat shield for anyone. I went inside the PD simply to seek cover and prevent the police from apprehending me in the middle of the chaotic scene. The person standing directly in front was another player, not me.
Regarding the NLR accusation: I did NOT break NLR because I never died during that incident. I was only injured/downed, treated by a paramedic, and subsequently freed by my associate Teddy. Since I did not die, no NLR applies to my actions.

 

[fatgirllover]

You have to be using AI for this, right, because nothing is making sense??

If you did not know what my associate's crimes were, why were you detaining him in the first place?

The problem is that YOU didn't know what his crimes were and still decided to initiate KOS on the PD over it IS a problem. You never even spoke to the person being detained; you just witnessed him in handcuffs and decided that was enough evidence for you to start gunning into a massive crowd of both police AND civilians.

All three are severe felony reasons that would result in heavy jail time. I acted entirely out of necessity to avoid arrest and retain my equipment.

1. You were aiming a gun at police from behind your car before picking your friend up; however, you bailed when your friend '0' got shot by TFU on scene, as you realized you hadn't been spotted doing it. You then decided to get back in your car with your gun still on your back, slowly driving around the PD entrance, just watching the scene with your gun on your back. If you are willing to KOS PD over a gun, why didn't you leave the area?

2. All three of these crimes are actually rules-wise minor, none of which can land you a 7+ year sentence. You cannot kill the entire PD simply because you didn't want to lose a gun.

I was not acting as a meat shield for anyone. I went inside the PD simply to seek cover and prevent the police from apprehending me in the middle of the chaotic scene. The person standing directly in front was another player, not me.

Must have been the wind? Sure looks like you were seeking cover, given that you were standing in the same corner I was actively shooting into.

Regarding the NLR accusation:

No one has even accused you of breaking NLR, so why do you bring it up in every reply? The fact that you didn't die and lingered around people required to report you to the police (government employees) in direct view of the police station IS the problem. You spent 6 entire minutes in direct eyeshot of the PD after initially aiming your gun at police until you were shot dead, instead of leaving the scene per rule 3.4

Any mod dealing with this, feel free to reach out to me for demos. I am more than happy to provide them, and it contains the entire situation from beginning to end. It's not a good idea to lie in your own apology (even though it reads like a dispute) when every second of your actions is recorded.

Anyways, yeah... Mic drop...

 

[fatgirllover]

Another awesome picture to add to the fire. This is 6 minutes after you initiated the mass RDM, when you & your posse decided to parade down Main Street with assault rifles on your backs to go wait for the entire PD to respawn at City Hall whilst playing 50 Cent into your mic and dancing and just being dumb. You guys sure look innocent. All in front of a bunch of government employees, mind you. You could have left the scene, or even just gone and put your guns away if you really wanted to rub your mass RDM into our faces by standing where we respawn so that we at least don't immediately have a reason to arrest you, but no- anything for org XP, right?