Ban Apology (Mxdium)

[EmYoo]

Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Apology
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Mxdium
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 3 Days

Your Steam Name: EmYoo
Your Roleplay Name: Jerry Johnson
Your SteamID: STEAM_1:0:91161221

Why were you punished?: So I was done grinding for the night and about to get off when I decided I wanted to do a raid right before I get off so I asked this guy in my apartment building to go raid with me and I grab a bomb that I had bought because I had never used one for a raid before and I wanted to test it out. I went around the entire map looking for a place to raid and there was absolutely nowhere. We get the idea to check the cabins so I pull up to one and it's completely shut off and all the doors are locked along with the windows all being boarded up so I thought it would be the perfect spot. It sounded like they were cooking inside and I heard meth drips from what I know. Come to find out, I blow the door and I run up to start dropping people and I see a cop in the building with them who proceeds to shoot me.

Why should this appeal be considered?: For one thing, I heard them making meth before I even started the raid in the first place and when I busted the door down I quite literally saw a cop making meth with civilians which I thought was very unusual for a cop to be doing. I wasn't expecting any cop to be in there and to be quite frank, I don't understand the ban that much as I don't see how I could have known there was a cop in a completely boarded off building that it sounded like people were making meth in. I apologize for not noticing that there could be a cop inside but I have no idea how I could have noticed besides a turned off police vehicle being out there. But from what it seemed the cops could have just been there earlier and it was very confusing that there would be a cop in a closed off building that sounded like it was making meth. But regardless of that I do apologize as I should have known from the police vehicle I guess but in roleplay terms it doesn't seem to make sense that there would be a cop sitting in a locked cabin with armed people in a roleplay sense.

 

[E-kitten4Grandpas]

[Directly involved as I was one of the cops who shot you, but I just want to provide some context]

As police; even though we hear the ephedrine dripping / meth production, technically we're not supposed to know because in roleplay terms it could be a faucet leaking etc, that's why cops don't breach a property solely off of dripping sounds or fire / burning sounds from turning up the stove that's cooking meth or drying coke.

We were also investigating a raid that had happened there not even a couple minutes prior.

 

[EmYoo]

[Directly involved as I was one of the cops who shot you, but I just want to provide some context]

As police; even though we hear the ephedrine dripping / meth production, technically we're not supposed to know because in roleplay terms it could be a faucet leaking etc, that's why cops don't breach a property solely off of dripping sounds or fire / burning sounds from turning up the stove that's cooking meth or drying coke.

We were also investigating a raid that had happened there not even a couple minutes prior.

When I say I hear dripping, it wasn't the main reason of my raid as I was simply looking for somewhere to raid. The doors were all completely locked and the windows were boarded so I don't know how I was supposed to know a cop was in the house.

 

[E-kitten4Grandpas]

When I say I hear dripping, it wasn't the main reason of my raid as I was simply looking for somewhere to raid. The doors were all completely locked and the windows were boarded so I don't know how I was supposed to know a cop was in the house.

I might have to look at my demo but I believe the side door was left unlocked because that’s how we made entry. (Neither of the homeowners locked the door after we went inside because they were cuffed besides showing keys on the front door.) We also didn’t hear door knobs jiggling.

Also PD car out front is kind of an indicator.

I said my piece and provided context about dripping etc, so now I dip.

 

[Mxdium]

I have no idea how I could have noticed besides a turned off police vehicle being out there. But from what it seemed the cops could have just been there earlier and it was very confusing

If you weren't sure you probably shouldn't have raided it.
If you want to dispute the validity of the ban, make a dispute not an apology.