Ban Dispute (Admin Meeting)

[Liam Linnet]

Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Locksmith
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: Permanent

Your Steam Name: Heimscheisser
Your Roleplay Name: Liam Linnet
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:126179218

Why were you punished?: 1.2 and 1.4

Why should this appeal be considered?: The ban started with 1 day because i had killed a guy by casino plaza for annoying me even tho i asked him to stop, and thats fair i got banned, the user then proceded to add me on steam to annoy me even more after i had origanally gotten baned for 1 day. i then got even mor emad and called him a slur over STEAM, it had nothing to do with the game, He legit addded me trying to cause more problems, therefore it was not me who tried to cause more problems. i apologise for spelling mistake i have a broken thumb and finger rn. and i apoligise for calling him the slur even tho it had nothing to do with the game

 

[Locksmith]

You state it had nothing to do with the game, but you state and I quote "Go cry to the admins faggot You got shit on and couldn't take the L, so you cry to the admins XD"

In addition to this, you're the person that messaged them first.

Finally, this seems more like a dispute rather than an apology, would you like me to change it to a dispute?

 

[Liam Linnet]

yes it should prob be made to a dispute, it just said to put evidence but i dont know what to put?

but he was the one who aded me on steam to try and annoy me so i didnt try to dm him he tried to dm me, and how can it have anything to do with the game when i was already banned for one day and HE adds me, to try and annoy me??

and i didnt even really say anything to start with i just put a emote of a salt grinder thing, and after i put the emote he provoked me even more, and thats when i called him the slur, and only after he provoked me even more , and yes i was the first to send a message but it was only a steam emote, he was the one who added me trying to start problems. and i dont know why i get banned for something that has nothing to do with the game, the guy even commented on my steam profile provoking me, but icant see this comment anymore so i guess he deleted it

i could have provided you with a screen shot of the whole chat but i dont know how to accses it because i removed him as a "friend" on steam

 

[Liam Linnet]

Sorry for tagging and i know you are prob busy, but what will happen now? @Locksmith

 

[Locksmith]

Since you are deciding to dispute it,, as such other members of the staff team will have to review this.

 

[Lucius Husky]

@Liam Linnet it is your responsibility to provide evidence of the situations you are disputing. Are you disputing the extension or the original ban? For either please provide the related evidence.

For the original RDM you can go into your demo's, using guide: https://help.perpheads.com/page/demos
For the extension please provide evidence of your steam chat if still possible.

 

[Liam Linnet]

im disputing the extension, the original ban im fine with cant argue on that one. but i cant access the chat on steam since i unfriended him unless there is a way to access it i dont know of? Locksmith must have a screenshot of the chat tho since he banned me for it?

imma be completely honest i really dont know what to do because i have no screenshot or proof of the chat.
im really trying to prove my case but its hard....

 

[Lucius Husky]

im disputing the extension, the original ban im fine with cant argue on that one. but i cant access the chat on steam since i unfriended him unless there is a way to access it i dont know of? Locksmith must have a screenshot of the chat tho since he banned me for it?

imma be completely honest i really dont know what to do because i have no screenshot or proof of the chat.
im really trying to prove my case but its hard....

Are you claiming you did not call them "Go cry to the admins faggot You got shit on and couldn't take the L, so you cry to the admins XD"?

 

[Liam Linnet]

no thats not at all what im trying to say, i did say that its just that it didnt have anything to do with the game, and Locksmith said i was the one who dmed him trying to create problems when in reality thats not at all what heppended, the guy who reported me, had sent a friend request to me on steam trying to create mor problems after he saw i got banned for killing him

(im currently tring to figure out how i can prove he was the one who added me)
(i have tried contacting steam support so they can prove he added me on steam)

 

[Lucius Husky]

no thats not at all what im trying to say, i did say that its just that it didnt have anything to do with the game, and Locksmith said i was the one who dmed him trying to create problems when in reality thats not at all what heppended, the guy who reported me, had sent a friend request to me on steam trying to create mor problems after he saw i got banned for killing him

(im currently tring to figure out how i can prove he was the one who added me)
(i have tried contacting steam support so they can prove he added me on steam)

So from what I understand, you got added by the person in question. You start with a salt shaker, starting problems. Then you send him a homophobic slur, referring to him "crying" to the admins. But it has nothing to do with the game?

 

[Liam Linnet]

how am i the one who started problems?
i just sent him a emote and then he satrts problems by refering to something that got me banned?
just to clarify when i say it has nothing to do with the game, like i mean its not connected to the game/gameplay but more a dissagreement if u understand what im trynna say?

i want to clarify that I am not denying what I said, i sent that message, and I fully understand that using that slur was wrong regardless of the situation.
im not trying to justify what I said. I just want to explain the context, i was added after the ban and let myself get provoked instead of blocking and moving on. That was immature on my part, but i dont understand how i can be banned for something that didnt happen ingame and i wasnt even the one who started by adding another member?

 

[Vegard]

I do not have full screenshots of the conversation, but I was able to copy the complete Steam chat log. The screenshot shared earlier does not include the entire exchange, so I am posting the full conversation below for context.

[2:36 PM]
Heimscheisser:
:steamsalty:

[2:37 PM]
Vegard:
YOU TOOK MY WHELL!! :steamhappy:

[2:37 PM]
Heimscheisser:
go cry to the admins faggot:steamsalty:
you got shit on and couldt take the L so you go cry to admins XD

[3:05 PM]
Vegard:
oh no, they extended your ban

[3:14 PM]
Heimscheisser:
:steamsalty:

[3:14 PM]
Vegard:


[3:14 PM]
Heimscheisser:
go kys fucking retard
Some content is being obscured in Steam Chat. You can adjust this in https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences#CommunityContentPreferences

[3:15 PM]
Heimscheisser:
its actually sad you are prob 25 years old playing garrys mod day in and day out, living in your moms basement, have no job or friends

[3:16 PM]
Vegard:
you seem upset, is everything good?

[3:17 PM]
Heimscheisser:
bro cant handle being called a slur that relates to you XD

[3:18 PM]
Vegard:
seems you cant handle me taking ur wheel XD

[3:18 PM]
Heimscheisser:
go make some friends you fucking nerd
and i dont mean online friends i mean irl the kind of ones you dont have

[3:20 PM]
Vegard:
ok i will try

[3:21 PM]
Heimscheisser:
dont pay for them

[3:21 PM]
Vegard:
thanks for the tip friend
always good to have friends that like you for who you are
and not bacuase you give them stuff

 

[Liam Linnet]

I just cant understand why i get banned for him adding me to provoke me for being banned and then i call him a slur and its sudenly a big problem?

 

[kerzify]

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