Ban Dispute (Daan)

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Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Daan
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 5 Days

Your Steam Name: ruisuinit
Your Roleplay Name: Wonton Wang
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:77798698

Why were you punished?: 2.5, 3.4 - The player shot an officer because they felt like the officer was abusing their power even though they were investigating a crime that happened earlier.

Why should this appeal be considered?: Someone I was with shot at an officer about 10 mins prior to this situation. That then concluded, and I was driving from Suburbs to City when I turned the bend and almost collided with the officer because they're sat in the middle of the road with their engine off. I then pull beside them and say, "You know you can't park here, right?" - they ignore me and sigh through their mic. So I then say I'm going to report you to a supervisor because it's blatant no care for life being stopped right after a bend in the middle of the road with no cones or anything. They hear the word supervisor, say "I don't care" and then immediately jump out of their car and shout they're going to shoot me. I was like woah for what for what and then jump out the car. The clip ends as I'm about to jump out the car as I hit the clip button right as this happened. She's then yapping about arresting me for someone else shooting at her car, even though that person went away from me and hopped in a pink car - which the officer watched them do before. I told her my gun hasn't even been fired. Then the pink car comes round the bend, and as expected by the officer being in the middle of the road crashes into them. I take this as my opportunity to get away and as both officers have now holstered their weapons I'm now no longer fearing my life and more fearing being arrested as I was on my way back to harvest the drugs I had been growing. So I now open fire on the officer while hiding behind the car, to which I take down one and the other gets me.

I find my ban very unfair as this situation was a clear abuse of this cop's position but the mod in-charge seemed to have already made his mind up about banning me even though you can clearly see the moment in that clip the officer isn't acting as they should and is instead just pissed off. This whole bullshit of "they were investigating a crime that happened" is fully just an excuse for her losing her temper. I don't believe my side of the story was taken into consideration whatsoever here, as I've seen and had it happen to me many a time where people will take the first chance they can get to escape arrest by killing the arresting officer.
 
Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Daan
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 5 Days

Your Steam Name: ruisuinit
Your Roleplay Name: Wonton Wang
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:77798698

Why were you punished?: 2.5, 3.4 - The player shot an officer because they felt like the officer was abusing their power even though they were investigating a crime that happened earlier.

Why should this appeal be considered?: Someone I was with shot at an officer about 10 mins prior to this situation. That then concluded, and I was driving from Suburbs to City when I turned the bend and almost collided with the officer because they're sat in the middle of the road with their engine off. I then pull beside them and say, "You know you can't park here, right?" - they ignore me and sigh through their mic. So I then say I'm going to report you to a supervisor because it's blatant no care for life being stopped right after a bend in the middle of the road with no cones or anything. They hear the word supervisor, say "I don't care" and then immediately jump out of their car and shout they're going to shoot me. I was like woah for what for what and then jump out the car. The clip ends as I'm about to jump out the car as I hit the clip button right as this happened. She's then yapping about arresting me for someone else shooting at her car, even though that person went away from me and hopped in a pink car - which the officer watched them do before. I told her my gun hasn't even been fired. Then the pink car comes round the bend, and as expected by the officer being in the middle of the road crashes into them. I take this as my opportunity to get away and as both officers have now holstered their weapons I'm now no longer fearing my life and more fearing being arrested as I was on my way back to harvest the drugs I had been growing. So I now open fire on the officer while hiding behind the car, to which I take down one and the other gets me.

I find my ban very unfair as this situation was a clear abuse of this cop's position but the mod in-charge seemed to have already made his mind up about banning me even though you can clearly see the moment in that clip the officer isn't acting as they should and is instead just pissed off. This whole bullshit of "they were investigating a crime that happened" is fully just an excuse for her losing her temper. I don't believe my side of the story was taken into consideration whatsoever here, as I've seen and had it happen to me many a time where people will take the first chance they can get to escape arrest by killing the arresting officer.
I'd also like to add I feel like an officer threatening to kill me after losing their temper is quite the sufficient reason to open fire on them...
 



After reviewing your dispute, we strongly feel like the punishment was warranted. However, since you have taken the time to explain your actions in detail, we wish to provide you with feedback on how to avoid similar situations in the future.

During the report and the dispute you have cited several questions as to why you opened fire against the police. First, you claim you had a car bomb and were afraid they would find it. However, law 7.2 Possession of Explosives and Incendiaries carries a max sentence of three years, nowhere near the minimum seven required to engage the police in a shootout. Second, you mention that you had drugs pending harvesting and were afraid you would be arrested, but once again, this does not justify opening fire against a LEO that is in the middle of the highway and clearly has no reason nor intent to breach/warrant your property. Third, you claim you opened fire against the cop because he threatened you and abused their powers. While a cop abusing their powers is considered a rule-break, Rule 2.6 states the following:

You must create a report if you see someone breaking the rules or if you need help. Once you have made a report, you should continue roleplaying while following the rules until a staff member intervenes.

This means that you shooting at them just because they did not act adequately is also a breach of server rules. It is also worth mentioning that you yourself admit that, at the time of shooting, you were not even scared for your life, but rather afraid of being arrested:

I'm now no longer fearing my life and more fearing being arrested as I was on my way back to harvest the drugs I had been growing.

This pushes your actions to an even larger degree of unacceptability.

Lastly, it has also come to our attention that if you were so worried about being caught in the middle of illegal activities, perhaps stopping in the middle of the highway to confront a police officer was not the best course of action.

We hope this clarifies things. The matter will now be considered settled and the punishment will stay on your record. Reviewed with @Tilin and @Sean .
 
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