Ban Dispute (Dekkrior)

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Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Dekkrior
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 1 Month

Your Steam Name: famous cat
Your Roleplay Name: Hazard Boss
Your SteamID: 76561198863321030

Why were you punished?: metagaming and setting up hits

Why should this appeal be considered?: we live in the same house we talk to each other from the rooms
-rep admin didnt let me explain
came up with plan beforehand to killing some rivals 1st one was ramming into us on highway the other guy was territorial we were trying to take their apartments we was bein cheeky blokes getting rid of wasteman simple as that we werent trying to step out of rp boundaries truth
 


This is being looked into. So, you effectively admit that you were giving each other information through out of character means (whether in real life, Discord, or whichever other) and acting upon it, and killed someone because you "wanted to take their apartment"?
 


This is being looked into. So, you effectively admit that you were giving each other information through out of character means (whether in real life, Discord, or whichever other) and acting upon it, and killed someone because you "wanted to take their apartment"?
Yes we admit to giving each other info outside of in game but that's pretty standard and we were not aware you weren't allowed to in this server. We play a lot of DarkRP but none of them were like that server we do more chaotic stuff and but it's never an issue. we both truly apologize. it was me and the guy that got banned with me :D
we also just wanna play with our other friends we met on that server but waiting a month is just gonna kill the drive we had for that game especially since our progress has been halted. We were just trying to come up big, we just made our first 100k and were looking to make some moves. We weren't trying to exactly take their apartment but that's how it was going down. Again we were not trying to break server rules, and also we were actively trying to learn all of the important ones that aren't usually in other servers by asking other players like cops as well as our own research. Let me know if you'd like more info
 
We appreciate the sincerity around the metagaming and you two living together, however you still both broke the spirit of Rule 3.2. As such that part of the ban will likely stay - please note that we do not review the length or severity of punishments through Disputes, only whether the ban or warning is valid or invalid.

Please provide more detail regarding both kills, because "we weren't trying to exactly take their apartment but that's how it was going down" doesn't really give us much to go off of, and we need more context than just "they were ramming into us on the highway" - were they continually ramming you, or was it a one-off? Did they threaten you as well? Did anything happen before that? Et cetera.

This is currently being reviewed by myself, @Vollgas, and @GamingPeach
 
Yeah we ran into them on the highway and they rammed us a couple times and all of us were talking shit then they ran off, we lost them, found them again in the city, they hit the side of our car so we stalked them to some apartments, followed one inside where there was some shooting going on, and I killed only one of the two guys in the car. For the second kill we saw a wealthy rival gang and were trying to come up big, we saw one alone outside their apartment and wanted to rob him, so I distracted him by talking to him so my buddy could try to zip tie him but ended up just shooting him in the head (oops) so we still robbed his gun and just dipped because the rest of his gang was still up stairs, talked some shit in character as we were leaving, and they were trying to spray us down. We were having fun but it was unintentional to break any server rules
 
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