Ban Dispute (phoondos)

[BI$HOP]

Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @phoondos
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 1 Week

Your Steam Name: BI$HOP
Your Roleplay Name: Jamari Evergreen
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:61640221

Why were you punished?: 3.4 - User started a raid while Police were still on scene

Why should this appeal be considered?: For starters, my character knew that Tidals was active, and upon receiving intel that 201 had planters, he factored in risk vs reward, and decided to raid the residence. Checking the front and the back twice before starting the raid, I was positive that no cops were around or people (apparently I was wrong and there were cops posted up at the PPS job, then shortly after made way to the front of tidals which I did not see, as I was detonating the bomb I had already placed after being sure (at the time) the coast was clear. Keep in mind, my character just made a big purchase on a vehicle he could barely afford, so he's now poor and taking risks to make money. Any who, I blow the door open and gun down the individual inside, his planters were past a blown off door so I was able to see they were just planted, and there was zero point of sticking around after I just made an exceptional amount of noise (using a bomb) so then Jamari made an escape, only seeing one police vehicle on his way out. So, I'm not understanding why I should've "never begun the raid to start with" as phoondos said, because my character never put his life into fear enough to even get into a interaction with the police, how did I fail to fear for my life when I wasn't even seen or caught by any police officer that was apparently right at the front of the building?

I could understand if the police had their sirens on, or were making an arrest outside of the building, or doing SOMETHING that let's their presence be known, but they weren't. They were half way up the block (PPS) when I placed my bomb (I believe) and twenty seconds later ended up pulling up to chill in the parking lot of Tidals (must've been, because there was nobody raiding or even roaming around the building when I initiated the raid, it was completely quiet despite Tidals having every apartment bought. So I don't agree with this ban whatsoever because I feared for my life during the entire ordeal and valued my life enough to come up with a plan that didn't fail in any way shape or form.

Additional Information: I am sorry for this happening to the cops but I don't agree with being punished for something that happened last second, the cops pulled up after I had already placed the bomb, and as a solo raider, I can't have anyone always watching the outside, my character understands the risk he's taking when using such utility as a solo, so being on high alert, and getting in and out as fast as possible are key factors my character always uses to get out of tight situations.
Everything I did was realistic and I never had disregard for my life in this situation, I made sure I got out of the place without dying despite the cops instant response because they pulled up last second without anything happening at Tidals.

 

[mocho]

I would like to see more of your POV since your clip you used as evidence is very brief and is right when you're calling the bomb.
Please upload the following demo within 24 hours:

perpheads_demo_2025-9-21 13-49-41

If you're not sure on how to find your demos, we have a guide here, you just need to read the beginning bit of where to locate the files: https://help.perpheads.com/page/demos
You can upload it here for it to be reviewed: https://demo.a1larsen.de/​

 

[BI$HOP]

Done sir.

I would like to also elaborate on me doubling back in the demo to avoid abusing my home at the residence, I waited until the coast was 100% clear before doing so, and I still never ran into any officers.

 

[Creepis]

Additionally, your ban will be extended for 2 weeks, totalling to 3 weeks in total for your current ban length as we discovered 2 more rule violations when reviewing your demo file.

Let me explain:

Prior to crafting the MP7 before the raid you do not value your life and enter the scene of a shootout that is currently happening inside Tidal's. We advise you to stay out, even if you just want to get to your apartment. The Casino/Bazaar would be a good place to wait it out but you ignored all the warnings.

Now for the actual dispute:
You did not investigate the surroundings of Tidal's, you did not even look out the window. We could only make out a single revolver shot from your POV, if you at least did some investigating you would have a better shot of disputing this but the fact is, you did none of this. Police response was quick and you could not do much after you bombed and killed one occupant inside.

After the raid you ran around Tidal's. You almost engage an Officer from behind but decide not to and go hide somewhere for 2 minutes until you come back and defend your property from Police who are currently raiding it. There aren't even any drugs inside so why bother coming back to kill them? There was nothing gained from this. After this, you died, got revived and put into jail.

Reviewed with: @A1L @Lucius Husky @Wescott @Lhealey05 @mocho @Kugen