Blacklist Dispute (Collier)

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Punishment Type: Blacklist
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Collier
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 2 Weeks

Your Steam Name: St. ides
Your Roleplay Name: Mia Taylor
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:163712517

Why were you punished?: "4.1 - Trolling as Secret Service, encouraging other Agents and Police Officers to kill each other and picking fights with a civilian."

Why should this appeal be considered?: The Person who made the IA complaint went behind the chain of command and bypassed how the IA should've went i had 0 chance to dispute during the IA which i feel is blatant corruption. I sent an IA in it took 3 days to get taken and now the other individual has the chance to defend themselves but you never gave me such.

I do wish to dispute specifics of written warning:
1.) "Shooting an LEO in the hospital" from my footage i never once shot a LEO in hospital.
2.) "Jailbreaking arrested SS out of jail" i was never aware we were jailbreaking that SS from jail. (Got clips BTW)
3.) "fighting with civis outside storage" that fight with the civi outside storage was started by said civi. (got Clips btw)
4.) "Criminal damage to a store on shop street" we dead ass you are writing a complaint on this? you can find my other rant below on what your bullshit admins fucking do. (way worse then me breaking a window that will fix itself in 1 minute)
5.) "Misuse of radio" No idea what you mean, ill need some context to this.
6.) "Shooting and rendering a SS agent unconscious on shop street" none of my footage shows me doing such
7.) "shooting and rendering a civilian unconscious outside the Hospital" Was the same Civi from storage who again started the fight and i lost then i got revived the civi was right there UNCUFFED which i then put down cuffed and revived but a officer came to check

Additional Information: what myself and my friends have allegedly have done is so less. now im sure you guys would claim "You are suppose to be following the laws as government employee" which is fair but you seem to hold the player base to a higher standard then your own admins so lets talk about what your admins do constantly. (cause leading by example and all.)

1.) i was RDMed by Ezza and lost my job XP cause of him. (got clips BTW)
2.) others RDMed me multiple times. (got clips BTW)
3.) i had a cop Execute me with no warning and 0 words spoken all during high pop. (Got clips BTW)
4.) i made multiple complaints on EMS, Taxi, which were all minging and no one got rid of them. while the admins were on but they where busy RDMing the server. (Got clips BTW)
but you guys wanna complain about what i do with my friends ON DOWNTIME 4AM to 7AM EST when no cops, EMS or others are on is bullshit.
You guys moderate people actually having fun with their friends then you do actual fucking minges. Benjamin Garrick is a fun fun example, he has had multiple i mean MULTIPLE FUCKING reports from me and others and you guys just give him slaps on the wrist but god fucking forbid i have fun with my friends.


DO NOT give me shit on "oh you should've made an Action request" or other bullshit on the things above.
 
Both, as per what i can tell they are both tied to each First off I will start with
First off, I will start with you can't dispute your PLPD written warning here, which has to be done here. You then need to go to the ticket division and choose Professional Standards Department and explain why you are disputing the warning and why you feel like the warning is not valid you can read more on how to appeal here.

Second off you are saying staff members or breaking the rules again. This won't be dealt with in this dispute as it's something only Admins+ deal with but you can make a staff complaint here. You will need to provide evidence on why you have made the complaint but you shouldn't be slandering staff in your disputes. If you struggle to find the staff member you are after you can find them here

We will only be looking into the secret service blacklist in this dispute which you claim you have evidence to prove you haven't done anything please upload this evidence within 24 hours for this appeal to be considered.
 
"4.1 - Trolling as Secret Service, encouraging other Agents and Police Officers to kill each other and picking fights with a civilian."

I was trolling at 4AM-7AM EST with 20 people on, with no cops AT THE TIME so this is fair. you admins do this all the time

I indeed did make remarks encouraging SS or 1 Cop to kill people with guns. i get that is minging but i shouldn't get a 2 week Blacklist for such

I was involved in fights/Altercations with:

1.) Levon Arqayan who was RDMing individuals at spawn with NO COPS ON (I started this)

2.) Jack Alex-Peterson. who started a fight by throwing a bottle (I didn't start this)

3.) the random Alters who i was fighting with and died to (they got banned)

only relevant people i felt was correct to add any other incident that happened i never started or was involved in
 
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"4.1 - Trolling as Secret Service, encouraging other Agents and Police Officers to kill each other and picking fights with a civilian."

I was trolling at 4AM-7AM EST with 20 people on, with no cops AT THE TIME so this is fair. you admins do this all the time

I indeed did make remarks encouraging SS or 1 Cop to kill people with guns. i get that is minging but i shouldn't get a 2 week Blacklist for such

So you're admitting to what you were punished for, but you don't agree with the length of your punishment?
 
So you're admitting to what you were punished for, but you don't agree with the length of your punishment?
i initially was disputing the Written warning as i thought both were the same so yeah now that i was directed towards correct places im disputing specifics and punishment length for the blacklist specifically. and if i did something ill admit it.
 
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Hi,

As I am the one who issued the blacklist, I will not be dealing with this. I will, however, mention that I chose to issue longer blacklists in place of 'real' server punishments. I would be open to an apology if you choose to make one, or you could make a staff complaint on me instead. I would hope that you would try to appeal first, but it is your right to create a staff complaint if you wish.
 
Hi,

As I am the one who issued the blacklist, I will not be dealing with this. I will, however, mention that I chose to issue longer blacklists in place of 'real' server punishments. I would be open to an apology if you choose to make one, or you could make a staff complaint on me instead. I would hope that you would try to appeal first, but it is your right to create a staff complaint if you wish.
staff complaint is completely unrelated

Ignore this i misread
 



After reviewing parts from the demo that led to your blacklist, we have concluded that it is completely valid. You did everything that is listed on it, (like you admitted yourself here), so we will be denying your dispute.

im disputing specifics and punishment length for the blacklist specifically
You cannot dispute the length of a punishment through a blacklist dispute, instead, you must make a staff complaint on @Collier here. Furthermore, here you can check how to dispute your Written Warning, as all the points you listed as invalid seem to come from there rather than from the blacklist.

Reviewed with @Lhealey05 and @Ellie.
 
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