Okay time for a real reply then, as some of you are not / have not been staff members.
First of all as I've already stated a lot of the things with ban appeals are dealt with off-side, basically off the forums, for example with some players bans (people who have reached a very high warning and ban count) we usually in the staff team try to get everyone within the staff teams opinion on this so what we do is create a thread in a hidden forum for enforcers+ and try to have a discussion there, when we feel like we've gathered enough information we try to close the discussion down and then deal with it further on the non-hidden forums. Now we also speak a lot about bans on teamspeak, which is prefered as there have been times where what we've said has been leaked with screenshots, me and
@Walker know this lol
There are also situations where we feel at one point a ban should be permanent but at a later state it should be either decreased or just completely an unban. This is exactly what I felt about Walkers ban, I got really mad at walker for posting these things and he knows it, however when he was unbanned the next day I couldn't care less honestly, it was enough for him he got his timeout however someone rebanned him and since then he stayed ban with no real explanation to him why, I tried to not take the discussion with him as I felt that he could make an appeal on the forums, he also contacted me on steam where I gave him childish replies and no full reply really which I'm sorry for and as far as I know
@Walker knows this.
Now same thing happened with Riekelts ban however it wasn't discussed the same way with staff members, it was more of less just spoken about quickly and we said no, however after
@Riekelt contacted me on steam a bit afterwards I decided to try to understand his point of view in an easier way, he agreed to it being stupid by him to post that "no muslims are normal" I then asked him to agree with me about some things which he did and thus he got unbanned. Obviously you wish to discuss the rule and it's more or less supposed to mean apologise. Let's head in to Belg's ban aswell as that also has to be discussed if you want to bring it in like this, Belg was banned as he kept on going after he was directly told to stop, he disputed his ban and I agreed to it being a bit excessive to ban him from the shoutbox instead of just deleting the message.
