Store/pick drugs while getting raided

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I have raided many people that store guns/pick up drugs later when I do report on these people the staff members give player warning/ban but when I ask for the staff that I would get anyway the staff members say we can’t give it to you since you never have it while I would have it anyway because I win the raid ?

I mean I raid to make money and the end the player store guns/drugs and I got nothing and put the gun in risk of losing it

So I just want to be clear why can’t I have the items while I would get it anyway
 
Megasaw said:
Stop raiding/mugging new players, and maybe we would have sympathy
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Thats a bit of an unfair response because he does have a valid point, especially if you've cleared the entire house and you get to the empty planters the fact that you can just store your stuff and get off with a minor warning if you've never done it before is unfair on the raider. At that point, whats the incentive NOT to store stuff mid raid if the stuff you have on you/drugs are of such high value a warning is meaningless

I dont mug new players, sometimes I raid them but I generally stick to bases I know will have profit and less chance of bullshit happening but I have had people do this exact thing happen and even besides being down drugs I earned fairly im also down time spent raiding, probably got dna uploaded or the police know its me who raided for something so now I have to sneak around the city and ontop of that I have profited nothing and I am down one of my hourly raids.
 
Ryan Mushroom said:
Thats a bit of an unfair response because he does have a valid point, especially if you've cleared the entire house and you get to the empty planters the fact that you can just store your stuff and get off with a minor warning if you've never done it before is unfair on the raider. At that point, whats the incentive NOT to store stuff mid raid if the stuff you have on you/drugs are of such high value a warning is meaningless

I dont mug new players, sometimes I raid them but I generally stick to bases I know will have profit and less chance of bullshit happening but I have had people do this exact thing happen and even besides being down drugs I earned fairly im also down time spent raiding, probably got dna uploaded or the police know its me who raided for something so now I have to sneak around the city and ontop of that I have profited nothing and I am down one of my hourly raids.
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Unlucky.

Dont raid new players :)
 
Megasaw said:
Stop raiding/mugging new players, and maybe we would have sympathy
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Not really

Post her from today tell past month how many times I raided/mug old/new player

Pretty sure big deference I do raid/mug new players but the funny fact is more than 50% of time old player or non new player tag on

Also post real response Instead saying shit
 
ALOO89 said:
Not really

Post her from today tell past month how many times I raided/mug old/new player

Pretty sure big definite I do raid new players but the funny fact is more than 50% of time old player or non new player tag on

Also post real response Instead saying shit
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Alright counsellor, I will respond to your thread.

We usually do give items back in regards of a rulebreak in this case. If they stored a weapon that was supposed to be mugged during the rulebreak, we would ask them to give the item back before issuing any punishments. This also applies if they failed to comply, causing themselves to get killed in order to avoid getting mugged.

There are some exceptions, for example, if you are mugging a new player who just has 5k of their starting money, I'm not going to bother to chase them down to give the money back, as the warning is sufficient enough of a punishment. If you don't like that, then don't target new players.... simple....
 
Megasaw said:
Alright counsellor, I will respond to your thread.

We usually do give items back in regards of a rulebreak in this case. If they stored a weapon that was supposed to be mugged during the rulebreak, we would ask them to give the item back before issuing any punishments. This also applies if they failed to comply, causing themselves to get killed in order to avoid getting mugged.

There are some exceptions, for example, if you are mugging a new player who just has 5k of their starting money, I'm not going to bother to chase them down to give the money back, as the warning is sufficient enough of a punishment. If you don't like that, then don't target new players.... simple....
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Why are you being so condescending, its a discussion. If you have nothing of value to add or are trying to ragebait/ego flex why even bother? Nobody mentioned new players, the rare time I have raided one and they stored I just laugh it off. It happens with non-new players aswell
 
Megasaw said:
We usually do give items back in regards of a rulebreak in this case. If they stored a weapon that was supposed to be mugged during the rulebreak, we would ask them to give the item back before issuing any punishments. This also applies if they failed to comply, causing themselves to get killed in order to avoid getting mugged.
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Not really staff members told me that they don’t give items guns/drugs even if I win and the items with +5k and he said staff members say should never refund/return items that you never have

Megasaw said:
There are some exceptions, for example, if you are mugging a new player who just has 5k of their starting money, I'm not going to bother to chase them down to give the money back, as the warning is sufficient enough of a punishment. If you don't like that, then don't target new players.... simple....
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Again you are saying shit and as I said post my raids / most my raids are old players but if I didn’t find old I just raid new and saying I’m targeting new players it’s not true remember maybe you are joking her but some player don’t know me and they will think that is true as you are staff member
 
Ryan Mushroom said:
Why are you being so condescending, its a discussion. If you have nothing of value to add or are trying to ragebait/ego flex why even bother? Nobody mentioned new players, the rare time I have raided one and they stored I just laugh it off. It happens with non-new players aswell
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Because I have no respect for people who purposefully raid new players and then complain when they don't get their items
 
Ryan Mushroom said:
Why are you being so condescending, its a discussion. If you have nothing of value to add or are trying to ragebait/ego flex why even bother? Nobody mentioned new players, the rare time I have raided one and they stored I just laugh it off. It happens with non-new players aswell
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how is he rage baiting? He said dont target new players, are you angry because you cant get free loot off of new players that just started playing the server that dont know the basics of the rules?
 
Ryan Mushroom said:
Why are you being so condescending, its a discussion. If you have nothing of value to add or are trying to ragebait/ego flex why even bother? Nobody mentioned new players, the rare time I have raided one and they stored I just laugh it off. It happens with non-new players aswell
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If you were staff and had to deal with some of these reports about new players storing their Walther PPK mid-raid and the player raiding them with 3 months playtime wanting that PPK like it's life or death to them, then you'd understand

New players make up for majority of those who break 3.18, that's why they were brought up in this discussion. Telling the truth is not rage-baiting or ego flexing, the amount of incredibly experienced players raiding new players on this server is disgusting, they'll play the excuse "oh there was ONE player that wasn't non-player hiding behind a new player door!!" when in reality that dude only had 5 days playtime, or "oh there was nothing else to raid".

Some orgs, I wont be naming them (but it's pretty easy to guess who) will be zerg-raiding new players and then expect respect from the rest of the community, and then be shocked if their org leaderboard XP is reset or they get banned for 2.5, or if we show any sort of disapproval towards their action in a report they've made on a new player for storing a shit gun that they want us to force off the new player, even though they're for certain never going to use their newly acquired PPK. Anyone with at least one bit of self decency will understand what I among others are trying to say in this thread.
 
this isnt only a raiding problem. when i attempted to mug multiple players in the forest and they failed gunpoint, never recieved their items. Its extremely shitty that people can just carry a whole shit ton of money and keep all your money, only risking a warn or a ban.
 
From my personal experience, this is usually due to inconvenience for admin+ to spawn in the item(s), as well as sometimes players will refuse to drop their items in the admin sit and would rather take the warning / ban which is really unfortunate.

Still so sad about the player I raided and mugged discarding one of his almost finished meth while his hands went down for a second and he kept refusing the zip tie prompt. :penguin:
 
Yeah guys I agree, this is REALLY frustrating!

I think that all these silly admins are missing an obvious and simple new rule to fix all these issues!

I propose that we practise... DISCRIMINATION!

I think that whenever a new player wants to harvest drugs it should have to be accepted by an Admin+ this will stop any new player tomfoolery and will enable us PvP gods to dominate them without getting our soon-to-be goop snatched from under our greasy fingertips.


If all goes well maybe we can enforce segregation (force all new players to base in the forest far away from the rest of us civilised people) soon!

#We'reBiologicallySuperior
 
torbizzle said:
If you were staff and had to deal with some of these reports about new players storing their Walther PPK mid-raid and the player raiding them with 3 months playtime wanting that PPK like it's life or death to them, then you'd understand

New players make up for majority of those who break 3.18, that's why they were brought up in this discussion. Telling the truth is not rage-baiting or ego flexing, the amount of incredibly experienced players raiding new players on this server is disgusting, they'll play the excuse "oh there was ONE player that wasn't non-player hiding behind a new player door!!" when in reality that dude only had 5 days playtime, or "oh there was nothing else to raid".

Some orgs, I wont be naming them (but it's pretty easy to guess who) will be zerg-raiding new players and then expect respect from the rest of the community, and then be shocked if their org leaderboard XP is reset or they get banned for 2.5, or if we show any sort of disapproval towards their action in a report they've made on a new player for storing a shit gun that they want us to force off the new player, even though they're for certain never going to use their newly acquired PPK. Anyone with at least one bit of self decency will understand what I among others are trying to say in this thread.
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You are speaking to me like a human, I am not affiliated with those shitty cringe orgs and I couldn't be arsed to either, the condescending tone towards me specifically was rude and if he spoke like you have it wouldn't of pissed me off and demotivated me from attempting to speak on this fourm when all I wanted to do was join in on a conversation that is relevant and relatable to me. Instead the guy decided because he has an issue with a few individuals to group me in with them and not even read what I said.

Thank you for speaking normally nonetheless, your peer is clearly ragebaiting though
 
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