Claimed Action Request (Legion, JayMo, Lukesky)

Your Steam Name: rickhummer
Your Roleplay Name: rickhummer
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:95929738

Player's Steam Name: Legion, JayMo, Lukesky
Player's Roleplay Name: Brandon Casavant, Inao Ball, Lue Spiegel
Player's SteamID: STEAM_0:0:28959830, STEAM_0:0:145314060, STEAM_0:0:39533317

Why should this player be punished?: Player A: Brandon Casavant Player B:Inao ball Player C: road crew Lue Spiegel

I just got done selling drugs to the Drug dealer with Trisha gin and 2 new players. When i seen these 2 cars these to players A & B one them hit or car cause us get stuck. than one of the new players call roadcrew as A & B drove off they came back than hit me when i had my gun out in passive told everyone put there hands up than as ill see in clip 2 new players pull there guns and they got killed Trisha stuck in the car than C come gets the cars unstuck as it's Unrealistic for roadcrew to come and get us because how would Trisha be able to get out of the car even if roadcrew pulled the car out. when she was stuck via door they mug me and her after road crew was just leaving.

I believe A & B broke 5.1 As you must not mug someone in public places or view or force them out of them. Than i believe C broke 4.1 4.3 as he could have drove off than called the cops than pulling the car out as he should have not been on the crime scene....

Evidence Link: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mWErt98F4SeENhbcz?invite=cr-MSx2cmcsMjcxNTE5NTk3

Creepis said:

@Legion @Jay is there a reason why as to why you didn't take any precautions and move the people you were mugging into a more secluded and hidden area?

The roadcrew worker has no forum account so I will attempt to reach out via Steam for an answer.

48 hours will be given for a response.

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babyshay got stuck in the creek and it was stalling the RP situation while we were already in a rush so we finished the situation as fast as possible.

Our plan was to quickly take control of the situation and move the players behind the motel to finish the mugging and leave. Unfortunately, due to a number of reasons, we weren’t able to execute that plan.

Upon initiating the RP situation, two of the players broke gunpoint, causing a shootout, resulting in chaos. On top of this, one of the players had gotten stuck in their vehicle. We made the choice to quickly sort the loot and leave, but a road crew worker arrived and we changed our mind to not only wait for him to get one of our getaway vehicles unstuck, but also fetch the stuck player out of the creek to mug as well.

Had the player been able to exit their vehicle properly, and had no one broken gunpoint, I believe this situation would’ve looked entirely different.

Legion said:

Our plan was to quickly take control of the situation and move the players behind the motel to finish the mugging and leave. Unfortunately, due to a number of reasons, we weren’t able to execute that plan.

Upon initiating the RP situation, two of the players broke gunpoint, causing a shootout, resulting in chaos. On top of this, one of the players had gotten stuck in their vehicle. We made the choice to quickly sort the loot and leave, but a road crew worker arrived and we changed our mind to not only wait for him to get one of our getaway vehicles unstuck, but also fetch the stuck player out of the creek to mug as well.

Had the player been able to exit their vehicle properly, and had no one broken gunpoint, I believe this situation would’ve looked entirely different.

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i know the 2 new players broke gun point they should have not done that as it would have made the situation much more different than them turning it out in shoot out its the fact you started mugging us Infront a roadcrew as he pulling off and still in the area and as that road crew should have not been around the crime. As You must not mug someone in public places or view you didn't move us as In yellow areas you should take extra care to make sure you are out of view of the public. This may mean forcing the player you are attempting to mug into a more hidden part of the area.

rickhummer said:

i know the 2 new players broke gun point they should have not done that as it would have made the situation much more different than them turning it out in shoot out its the fact you started mugging us Infront a roadcrew as he pulling off and still in the area and as that road crew should have not been around the crime. As You must not mug someone in public places or view you didn't move us as In yellow areas you should take extra care to make sure you are out of view of the public. This may mean forcing the player you are attempting to mug into a more hidden part of the area.

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As far as the 'yellow zone' goes, it states "In yellow areas you should take extra care to make sure you are out of view of the public". A review of the demo would clearly show that before committing to the mugging, both Brandon and myself drove around to ensure the location was secure (not to mention this location should probably just be 'green'). Once secured, we initiated the mugging.Additionally, it states that "This MAY mean forcing the player(s) you are attempting to mug into a more hidden part of the area." The keyword here is "may". In this case, it was not necessary to maneuver the players around according to some convoluted, arbitrary guideline. We had already ensured the area was secure, plus it's a corner of the map which is surrounded by forest. To even make the argument that we should have been 'more cautious' implies that mugging is just a feature of the game mode that is entirely unwanted (there are already plenty of mug-blocking mechanics in place).The players had plenty of time to get in their vehicle and leave, but somehow managed to drive themselves into a creek, creating the perfect scenario.