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yes that I agree but my question earlier was about if the officer does not have reasonable articulable probable cause, we can both say that is definitely unlawful detainment and unjustifiable force right?

I’m not clear on what this means. please clarify because maybe I’m misunderstanding but I feel like if a civilian is gunpointed without probable cause then that has to be unlawful detainment. When a person gunpoints a person and or orders surrender that is pursuing custody, that is a means of...

And if the officer gunpoints people he legally should not have, does that also get punished rule wise? Logically speaking Unlawful Detainment -> Criminal Conduct -> Gross misconduct.

That’s a false dilemma. It’s not logical to act like there are not a ton more variables than to just act like it’s black and white “gun or taser” If an officer is by himself and feels his life is at risk he can and should give chase without using his firearm. KEEP it in hand, sure, but raising...

The legend has spoken.

I will personally check if this works for me but I think it’s safe to take your word for it @peeps Thanks for clarifying that, I’ll get back to this later today when I have time if this suggestion is still open.

my claim was that there is not enough punishment from staff when an officer uses unjustifiable force. Your argument was pointing to the fact a committee votes then made a wild speculation that my take is due to “it's likely that you made a complaint that simply wasn't valid?” Which is a red...

And if an officer is not low rank and used excessive force without trolling?

Suggestion Title: Auto-Save Demo before Ban Suggestion Description: Make the ban command execute a forced demo restart before banning to ensure that players who are punished have the fair opportunity to replay their demos to dispute if needed. Why should this be added?: - justice - fairness...

that’s a red herring and a false cause. I would like to believe that but I can only speak for myself and based on my anecdotal evidence that is only the case if the IA holds evidence of something really serious like discrimination or RDM. This does not address how it still takes a lengthy 2...

No I had multiple sustained IAs which I made that involved me being forced fo elaborate or provide further evidence despite the initial form being perfectly viable. Not to mention that this does not address how cops still don’t face rule punishment from staff when IAs are sustained.

criminal ignores justifiable force = ban Cop uses unjustifiable force = 2 week lengthy IA process and no rule punishment even if the IA is sustained. How fair

This is part of why I tried to regulate car speeds by incentivizing people to use non-hyper cars by being able to upgrade them to somewhere around 100 MPH. Currently any non-hyper car, even at max upgrade, won’t catch up to even a normal patrol cruiser. Let alone getting away from RTU or their...

Non violent offenders can also be: 1) Reckless drivers / driving without due care 2) People with drugs on their person while pulled over for a traffic violation incumbent of a prison sentence 3) Burglars who are unarmed just sneaking in and out 4) Scammers who stole money / valuables and fled...

You won’t believe how many officers pull guns over non-violent crimes daily, including supervisors. Staff are heavily involved in protecting them from people fleeing gunpoint by punishing 3.4 which is good but if what you’re saying is true, then I think we may have an issue here because cops...

Curious what others think about fleeing under gunpoint and in the specific case of an exception for being wanted for non violent crimes.

This alone swayed my opinion. Taxis already have it boring as it is. This would probably make it less likely that Taxis get roleplay interactions and makes it more pointless to be a taxi driver.

Finally bruh https://perpheads.com/threads/ammo-efficiency.54218/

+1 Thread 'Vending Machines Functionality' https://perpheads.com/threads/vending-machines-functionality.70171/ I understand this one is focused on player-owned business versus the attached one generally referring to all vending machines, including “NPC-owned.” I’m of the opinion that we...

Point Case This showcases how illogical and toxic the response arguments can be sometimes. My record is not relevant to the general argument I am making. The closest thing to what I think you’re attempting to refute is that one of my points is if everyone is consenting to having fun...

I explicitly referenced anecdotal evidence / first-hand experience (which I have video-graphic evidence of) where everyone involved enjoyed the roleplay despite what the rules say by the letter and I was still punished severely for providing that experience. Anyone I talked to about roleplay...

i disagree with this because it is arguably true that roleplay does get you banned in some cases. https://perpheads.com/threads/role-play-on-this-server.71721/post-516988

Yesterday I intended on having a chase with police where everyone had fun. i had RTU Porsche, Cadillac SGT, Charger, Crown Victoria, Officers set up with spike strips, Under cover unit and even the medic got involved to keep eyes. Server pop was around 30, all you can see tumble weeds when...

If anyone non-staff posted this to you, you would delete it and punish them for causing problems / unnecessary posting. The jokes do write themselves i guess

\ It is very possible to reach them, pick them up and press E on them without jumping / crouching to get in the back.

this isn't a loophole. The rules literally say "accessible," and by definition being able to pick up and press E on drugs to interact is accessible.

collier wrote the rules and is the head admin, i understand what he says goes. Still, the letter of the rules prove what I claim and if it is truly a punishable offense to do so then the rules must be made more clear on that.

Players must not place drugs in areas that are not accessible without jumping or crouching" in a transit van, you can interact and move drugs without jumping or crouching, meaning you can access them.

you can right click with fists to pull them out or click E to interact with the planer box, so 3.11 does not apply to van growing.

That is not what I’m saying. The claim that orgs having a system to count their score for killing a rival is denying player access to areas is a huge issue, let alone the asinine comparison to V5 bank was refuted. Then now the argument up and changed the goal post by adding conditions that...