Action Request (Tomasz Szelbi)

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i was conducting a raid in projex 4 and then projex 1 after they started shooting at us through the door. Then as we are storing due to raid being finished we heard a nade being thrown onto the stairs from inside of projex. Therefore we came to the conclusion that it must have been 2 that threw a grenade at us (as all of the other properties were empty). The problem arises when tyrone morris shows up whilst the raid is still happening and we are actively getting countered and decides to take a gun and store it (most likely as they were told to by the counter, logs can verify him picking it up before the last counter aloo dies). Furthermore once the grenade exploded i ran up to hold the door just incase they tried to rush out which is what i was thinking is happening when i shot these two.
Also Tyrone Morris broke NLR and "joined" the same situation by picking up weapons during the shootout and went inside of his apartment. He also attempted to kill us by throwing grenades out of his door. We had no knowledge of Morris coming back and the only apartment that was closed was 2 (24k3's apt) and thats why i killed these due to the idea that they try counter.
 
Baljeet Singh said:
i was conducting a raid in projex 4 and then projex 1 after they started shooting at us through the door. Then as we are storing due to raid being finished we heard a nade being thrown onto the stairs from inside of projex. Therefore we came to the conclusion that it must have been 2 that threw a grenade at us (as all of the other properties were empty). The problem arises when tyrone morris shows up whilst the raid is still happening and we are actively getting countered and decides to take a gun and store it (most likely as they were told to by the counter, logs can verify him picking it up before the last counter aloo dies). Furthermore once the grenade exploded i ran up to hold the door just incase they tried to rush out which is what i was thinking is happening when i shot these two.
Also Tyrone Morris broke NLR and "joined" the same situation by picking up weapons during the shootout and went inside of his apartment. He also attempted to kill us by throwing grenades out of his door. We had no knowledge of Morris coming back and the only apartment that was closed was 2 (24k3's apt) and thats why i killed these due to the idea that they try counter.
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Involved.

Why would u think it was 2 trying to counter if u literally had keys to 2 and was using it to store ur guns earlier??
 
I have requested Baljeet's demo in order to investigate into this incident, whilst I'm waiting to review this demo
@SomeUser Care to comment on the allegations contained above
 
are you a retard?, you were not there to see the nade because you are DEAD. additionally 1st guy was armed (metal detector) and 2nd guy had a weapon on his back so idk why your speaking when you didnt stay alive to witness this situation. ts pmo
 
SomeUser said:
Uhhhh ngl locksmith i had no idea wtf was going on...
Sum it up for me what you want me to comment on?
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Allegedly you had returned in a situation you had died within and began storing firearms and going back into your apartment, as well as allegedly being involved in throwing grenades out of the apartment in an attempt to kill Bajeet or the people on the stairs.

Also keep it respectful, lets not antagonise each other please.
 
Locksmith said:
Allegedly you had returned in a situation you had died within and began storing firearms and going back into your apartment, as well as allegedly being involved in throwing grenades out of the apartment in an attempt to kill Bajeet or the people on the stairs.

Also keep it respectful, lets not antagonise each other please.
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1 - I ignored what people where saying thought aloo was raiding told me to store something in my car so I did i then ignored what was going on which to be fair MB
2 - Yes I threw a nade, I threw it because a friend of mine just died due to someone using a AK when they where using a MP9
3 - You stayed in active situation for over 10 mins, risking your own freedom and your life, when you had a property and a transit as you legacy members mostly do. - Also I returned after the 10 mins when my NLR was up not during, when it was over
4 - "I returned to a sitauation you had died within" - When I rolled up no shots where fired, No enemys where in my property or about everything looked safe

While I might now have the benefit of hignsight to see maybe throwing a nade was not my best cause of action, My first question is 1 wtf where you lot doing there so long, How am i ment to know that its still active (however in this case I did ignore people, which my bad) you had the door closed never said a word, and plus I did not even know who raided me i was too busy playing pokemon to notice that...

TLDR - I might be autistic and try to ignore the world the best i can, however I cannot know what your doing at a given time, im not telepathic
 
Ok, after reviewing the demo, there are several things I have noticed

@Baljeet Singh Projex 2 never threw a grenade out towards you, that was actually @SomeUser in P4

@SomeUser Whilst I understand their was no gunshots, there were several dead bodies, in addition to this, you saw Aloo with his gun out, did it not cross your mind that it could be the same situation that he involving himself in?

@ALOO89 Why did you ask Someuser to store the firearms and then deciding to push in? You knew you were not safe to do so in this instance as you had not cleared the properties of which you were countering.
 
yeah i also found that it was 4 (morris) that threw it after i watched demo also and he caused the unnecessary deaths of p2. also as he wrote a few days ago that i over stayed 10 mins, i couldn’t leave at all i was solo up against an unknown number of people who would not push up and instead decided to just camp the front door waiting for me to leave which would just be a death sentence.
 
Locksmith said:
Ok, after reviewing the demo, there are several things I have noticed

@Baljeet Singh Projex 2 never threw a grenade out towards you, that was actually @SomeUser in P4

@SomeUser Whilst I understand their was no gunshots, there were several dead bodies, in addition to this, you saw Aloo with his gun out, did it not cross your mind that it could be the same situation that he involving himself in?

@ALOO89 Why did you ask Someuser to store the firearms and then deciding to push in? You knew you were not safe to do so in this instance as you had not cleared the properties of which you were countering.
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Honestly no, it did not cross my mind too be honest, I will admit fault on my behalf as quite frankly I just was not paying attention, again as i said before im not telepathic, how was i supposted to know whats going on all i know was I died waited 10 mins aloo had a gun out so i went back into my appartment heard aloo died so i threw a nade downstairs but did not have many more guns so i could not really do much.

However my question is why where you there for so long, could you not have gotten whatever you came for and left? like a normal raid?
 
Locksmith said:
@ALOO89 Why did you ask Someuser to store the firearms and then deciding to push in? You knew you were not safe to do so in this instance as you had not cleared the properties of which you were countering.
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i got @Baba Won on zip tize as he was going to flank but he didnt flank so i couldnt take hes gun and i should give it back i left it on the ground then new player come and try to minge it and i didnt want to @Baba Won lose hes gun to sweater and i told him i will store ur gun on ur trunk but i didnt know where hes car anyway tarone came and i give it to him and later i tock it from him and told baba i will give it to you he said sure later u can give me



to make it short some player come down to projex and try to minge hes gun and i didnt want it to be minge so i just told baba i will store ur gun and give it to you later so no one minge it as it wasnt really part of raid / flank / counter


and it was safe out side
 
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