Claimed Action Request (ZBM)

[2112]

Your Steam Name: 2112
Your Roleplay Name: Dwayne
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:69472337

Player's Steam Name: ZBM
Player's Roleplay Name: OSCAR GOLDING
Player's SteamID: STEAM_0:0:88737975

Why should this player be punished?: 2.5? 3.4?

Their friends vehicle was parked longer than the 5 minute limit shown on the signage. This resulted in the vehicle being clamped and prepared for removal in line with enforcement rules.

At this time i as a roadcrew worker was gun pointed for no reason to remove it, no active shootout in the area, from my POV nothing warranting gun pointing to remove a clamp

Evidence Link: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/mXMutcASJwm-JOy7-?invite=cr-MSxFY2QsMTkwNTU3NzIx&v=42

 

[Brian Hickman]

Involved: I dont believe we was there for more than 5 minutes as we just came from a raid we was storing weapons and waiting for a friend to come so we could do final raid. So we needed our car since there was a slight chance we were wanted. Plus u didnt ask permission and we believe u listened to another civilian as that civilian walked up to you saying something to you then u came to clamp our car

 

[2112]

Involved: I dont believe we was there for more than 5 minutes as we just came from a raid we was storing weapons and waiting for a friend to come so we could do final raid. So we needed our car since there was a slight chance we were wanted. Plus u didnt ask permission and we believe u listened to another civilian as that civilian walked up to you saying something to you then u came to clamp our car

First off you are not involved and not in the area so not sure why your jumping on here unless your a ghost. This can be seen even in my clip nobody else is on scene.

Only ''Footi Mooti'' what a name... and ''OSCAR GOLDING'' interact with me/are nearby as well as the civilian you mentioned ''Jackson Berry'', but you could have been stood by hospital/in the alleyway where im unable to see.

You do not enter the car that is clamped not interact with the two other players during that 5 minute period.

Funny you say final raid but shortly after this interaction they log off? Maybe they missed their shots and died idk.

(NOTE AFTER AN UPDATE THIS GENTLEMAN WAS INVOLVED- I WAS UNAWARE HE WAS FOOTI)

I dont believe we was there for more than 5 minutes as we just came from a raid we was storing weapons and waiting for a friend to come so we could do final raid.

Unfortunately not, this may have been a different time you are thinking about as i believe it was clamped another time. I stood there and it was timed, i timed it from the rear of hospital from a distance as per the other 2 or 3 cars i towed in the area over the allocated 5 minutes.

a slight chance we were wanted.

This would not be known by me as roadcrew, Nor in the time that i was standing there was ANY cops in the area of storage. And as i'm aware doesn't get based off ''might be wanted'' you must know. But then again there is a body on the floor in front of the NPC but as watching it was a minge player who was hitting people with a bat for no reason. There is 1 more body that is in the corner.

Plus u didnt ask permission and we believe u listened to another civilian as that civilian walked up to you saying something to you then u came to clamp our car

I don't need permission to tow a car.

The other civilian only approached me at approximately minute 3 to 4 so i can confirm i did not listen to another civilian, even if this was the case, i cannot go off a timer from somebody else. i have to time it myself unless its a PLPD Officer who timed it.

The car was only clamped after the 5 minute period, at which i pulled my roadcrew truck up to the car from the side, this can be seen from the positioning of my truck in the clip.




I created an F6 Report at the time but VERY shortly after this interaction the users log off. Staff were not available at the time. As stated in the F6 Report id make an AR

 

[2112]

waiting for a friend to come

You can see in the clip, no one's waiting around.. no friend arrives they just leave.... Only the car waited for 5 minutes... But then again. I didn't see the car arrive. I just timed it from it being stationary.

 

[Brian Hickman]

Ye am footi mooti and that was my car u tried towing and we just finished a raid and came to storage to store than we was waiting for a friend to come the guy who was minging dont see how thats our problem we left cuz we gped u if we have stayed that would have been 3.4 which is why we left immediately and raided another property

 

[2112]

Ye am footi mooti and that was my car u tried towing and we just finished a raid and came to storage to store than we was waiting for a friend to come the guy who was minging dont see how thats our problem we left cuz we gped u if we have stayed that would have been 3.4 which is why we left immediately and raided another property

Apologies i didn't realise you was footi footi, thought you was still brian. The minging guy isn't relevant, just mentioned as may have been involved/may be dead due to you guys but i didn't see, only saw him hitting people prior, if i had knowledge you killed someone/ i wouldnt have clamped as it wouldn't have been safe for me.

So correction to the above stating you wasn't involved. MY BAD G

 

[Brian Hickman]

And we had reasonable belief that the guy told u to tow our car and u listened to him since my friend had a verbal fight with him then he went next to you then you come and clamp our car

 

[2112]

And we had reasonable belief that the guy told u to tow our car and u listened to him since my friend had a verbal fight with him then he went next to you then you come and clamp our car

even if you had that belief that's nothing to gunpoint me over?!? And ive confirmed thats not the case.
it was your car, your friend gunpointed.

 

[Brian Hickman]

So if we have let u clamped our car and take it we would have to either run to city parking with guns behind our back since we are warranted or run to rc both is breaking 3.4 since we would have been cop baiting so safest way was to gp u then run away which is exactly what we did

 

[2112]

So if we have let u clamped our car and take it we would have to either run to city parking with guns behind our back since we are warranted or run to rc both is breaking 3.4 since we would have been cop baiting so safest way was to gp u then run away which is exactly what we did

YOU LITERALLY SAID ABOVE THAT YOU THINK, you was wanted.

Did you text and confirm you was wanted with the dealer?

You was next to storage?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!

If you was warranted why are you leaving a car parked at the city storage for 5 minutes?? lingering around the area?

You should know you cant base it off assumption youve been here long enough. This AR is against another user, not yourself.

 

[Brian Hickman]

As i said we came from a raid so its clear to say we are wanted and as i said we stored guns and was waiting for a friend. And i doubt we was in storage for 5 minutes now leave this is staff

 

[2112]

yeah lets wait for staff

 

[Collier]

I have a few questions
@ZBM @Brian Hickman Who were you waiting for, and why couldn't you have done this in a less public location immediately after killing Police?

@2112 Why did you attempt to initiate a tow on a car while 2 visibly armed individuals were inside it, when the car had been there for a maximum of 2-3 minutes?

 

[ZBM]

I have a few questions
@ZBM @Brian Hickman Who were you waiting for, and why couldn't you have done this in a less public location immediately after killing Police?

@2112 Why did you attempt to initiate a tow on a car while 2 visibly armed individuals were inside it, when the car had been there for a maximum of 2-3 minutes?

We raided regals it lasted for over 8 minutes only cops to respond where the ones at the parking we killed them and when leaving we saw a brute go towards it, knowing that our org member died like 2-3 minutes before the last cop we killed we decided to leave, store guns at storage and then wait for him since he has no car and will instantly come to storage, knowing this will only take max 3 more minutes and knowing that there arent that many cops on it was going to be safe to go to storage for a short period of time

 

[Brian Hickman]

So when we was raiding regals leo died me and zbm was holding regals then pushed up bank since thats where leo died when we ran away we saw brute coming we went to storage to store whatever we got and we decided to wait for leo since it took some time and we did not have a base so instead of drivinn around the city we thought we might as well stay here for 1-2 minutes then rc came tried towing our car but we gped and ran away

 

[2112]

I have a few questions
@ZBM @Brian Hickman Who were you waiting for, and why couldn't you have done this in a less public location immediately after killing Police?

@2112 Why did you attempt to initiate a tow on a car while 2 visibly armed individuals were inside it, when the car had been there for a maximum of 2-3 minutes?

It was timed with a clock... It wasn't 2 minutes?!? I'm confused by that- Because i stood there for the time via the timer/clock, the car was in the space, i didn't look away from it.
From my POV only 1 gentleman is in the car and i didnt see the other gentleman was armed. When noticing the 2nd guy i was already under gunpoint and removing the clamp and surrendering.

After reviewing 4 seconds in i see this How am i meant to judge if he is armed by this... i didn't see that at the time and he was moving around.

The 2nd guy isnt in the car at the time? i don't recall seeing him until after im gunpointed/phone maybe is in the way?

 

[2112]

i didnt even know @Brian Hickman was armed until now

 

[ZBM]

forgot to mention but we had raided before at office and wiped pd a total of 5 officers so killing 3 at bank parking and then seeing the brute confirmed to me where the other cops were and we also saw a rtfo run towards the bank from pd

 

[2112]

forgot to mention but we had raided before at office and wiped pd a total of 5 officers so killing 3 at bank parking and then seeing the brute confirmed to me where the other cops were and we also saw a rtfo run towards the bank from pd

So what confuses me is the thought is to go to public storage nearby and sit there to wait in that area for a friend? Unless your classing eachother as a friend because i didnt recall seeing your original passenger. Yet after you dont have a friend there and you GP me instead of just asking/paying. As roadcrew how am i meant to know this? When i dont see cops nor shooting in the area. Not arguing here, it just confuses me.

TBH i get the point of being armed, i clearly wasnt paying attention to the pixels and didnt see Footi Mooti is armed.

 

[ZBM]

So what confuses me is the thought is to go to public storage nearby and sit there to wait in that area for a friend? Unless your classing eachother as a friend because i didnt recall seeing your original passenger. Yet after you dont have a friend there and you GP me instead of just asking/paying. As roadcrew how am i meant to know this? When i dont see cops nor shooting in the area. Not arguing here, it just confuses me.

TBH i get the point of being armed, i clearly wasnt paying attention to the pixels and didnt see Footi Mooti is armed.

because to me u look like a simple minge taking my car for no reason no 5 minutes went pass and u just tried taking it, and also why do u ask me why am i risking my life? stay in character ur a simple rc under gp u woudnt ask those questions