Ban Dispute (Ezza)

[Alonso Montana]

Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Ezza
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 3 Days

Your Steam Name: Alonso Montana
Your Roleplay Name: Alonso Montana
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:591154705

Why were you punished?: my friends and i were finishing up a raid by transporting the drugs from our transit van into our property. before doing so we decided to clear the apartment because we saw unfamiliar cars parked outside that did not belong to us. After this, my friend(steven dinglerry) began moving the drugs from the ford transit ,outside, into the elevator and then into the apartment. During this time, myself and several others were guarding the drugs and kossing cops because they had responded to office (not sure why but we are not going to risk our drugs and we already cleared our property and confirmed there were no active situations). during this, I noticed a few cops running up through market street towards office. I decided to kill them as my friend was still moving drugs out of the transit into the apartment( u will be able to hear this in the clip) . For some reason i have been given a 3.4 ban although i could not have left the area or avoided police as my friend was still moving some of the drugs into the apartment( assuming this is the reason for my ban "Not taking precautions to avoid Police attention or leaving the area after committing crimes".)

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[piesangsaregood]

Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Ezza
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 3 Days

Your Steam Name: Alonso Montana
Your Roleplay Name: Alonso Montana
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:591154705

Why were you punished?: my friends and i were finishing up a raid by transporting the drugs from our transit van into our property. before doing so we decided to clear the apartment because we saw unfamiliar cars parked outside that did not belong to us. After this, my friend(steven dinglerry) began moving the drugs from the ford transit ,outside, into the elevator and then into the apartment. During this time, myself and several others were guarding the drugs and kossing cops because they had responded to office (not sure why but we are not going to risk our drugs and we already cleared our property and confirmed there were no active situations). during this, I noticed a few cops running up through market street towards office. I decided to kill them as my friend was still moving drugs out of the transit into the apartment( u will be able to hear this in the clip) . For some reason i have been given a 3.4 ban although i could not have left the area or avoided police as my friend was still moving some of the drugs into the apartment( assuming this is the reason for my ban "Not taking precautions to avoid Police attention or leaving the area after committing crimes".)

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Involved: there was still one planter inside of the van when alonso called out and killed these cops. Not sure how this could have been 3.4 as the crime was still being comitted and our drugs are still at risk. Not to mention neither of the other 3 planters were inside the apartment yet, they were still in the lobby of office which would make them visible to pd or counters

 

[Ezza]

My point ive made to everyone ive spoke to, you are actively looking to engage with cops, cops who were chasing a suspect after the gunshots at city hall, which was called out by someone in your teamspeak, instead of allowing the cops to actually get near you to show intentions, you instead gun cops down who are 3/4's the way up market street, while doing so hitting 2 civilians who are uninvolved and unlikely to even know something is going on as it was over 2 mins from the last gunfire and kill.

 

[Hja!te]

Involved: The civillians clearly got hit in the crossfire

 

[Alonso Montana]

My point ive made to everyone ive spoke to, you are actively looking to engage with cops, cops who were chasing a suspect after the gunshots at city hall, which was called out by someone in your teamspeak, instead of allowing the cops to actually get near you to show intentions, you instead gun cops down who are 3/4's the way up market street, while doing so hitting 2 civilians who are uninvolved and unlikely to even know something is going on as it was over 2 mins from the last gunfire and kill.

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lKjX2LVAfP2eCGdU9?invite=cr-MSxGeFosMTY1NTE2MDY&v=45 if i only wanted to kill pd i could have killed them at bank as you can see in the clip. insteed i decied to wait for confirmation that they where coming towards me

 

[Alonso Montana]

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lKjX2LVAfP2eCGdU9?invite=cr-MSxGeFosMTY1NTE2MDY&v=45 if i only wanted to kill pd i could have killed them at bank as you can see in the clip. insteed i decied to wait for confirmation that they where coming towards me

I would like to add that there is no world in which i will wait for a cop to shoot at me or try gp me(showing their intentions) especially considering my only advantage is that i have a longer rannge rifle and I am more likely to die if i let them near me

 

[piesangsaregood]

My point ive made to everyone ive spoke to, you are actively looking to engage with cops, cops who were chasing a suspect after the gunshots at city hall, which was called out by someone in your teamspeak, instead of allowing the cops to actually get near you to show intentions, you instead gun cops down who are 3/4's the way up market street, while doing so hitting 2 civilians who are uninvolved and unlikely to even know something is going on as it was over 2 mins from the last gunfire and kill.

the person saying that the cops are at ch and are not respondig to office is alonso, which is further showing that he is stopping his orgmates from shooting at cops because he is not sure if they are responding to office. It is a case of wrong place at the wrong time.Not to mentionn there is no signs of a chase given by the cops, nobody runnning away from them which makes it seem like they are running at alonnso which is an active shootout(they know because of the life alerts of several other officers).
I think it is time to simply admit ur fault