Server Suggestion Buff Cars

[MalekIsWeird]

Suggestion Title: buff cars
Suggestion Description: Make vehicles drive faster and handle better, INCLUDING PD cars.

A basic idea is that cars probably should drive easily 30+ MPH faster than what they currently do.

Why should this be added?:
- make commuting around the map reasonable
- make tricks more accessible to people without hyper cars
- compensate players for the big increase in scale of V6 compared to V5.
- Saves time travelling
- Makes chases more enjoyable
- Makes cars more viable in combat versus being moving caskets
- Closer speeds to the real life speed of vehicles.
- Remove this weird thing where it takes a hyper car or a sports car with multiple engine upgrades to even scrape 100 MPH mark.
- gives Roadcrew more to do and talk about
- Gives RTU more to do and talk about
- Controlling the car better on winding roads

What negatives could this have?:
- car crashes may happen more often
- may take some time fine tuning all the cars
- May cause imbalance if done incorrectly

What problem would this suggestion solve?: Cars drive far too slow now.

Maybe back in Paralake V5 it was okay given the smaller scale of the map.

Fortunately, Now we have so much more tricks, jumps, buildings and space to drive with in terms of scale.

 

[Dom/1878]

my car gets stolen and tiered enough, i dont need any of them having a slight boost as it will cause them too get tiered even more, by my shit driving or anyone elses

 

[MalekIsWeird]

Big no from me. It is already tiring enough being called every slur in the book by a guy flying into me because he is driving 75 in a 30 zone.

Would be more supportive if driving like a idiot became a serious ban able offense, but then again this would probably get at least 1/3 of the player base banned because by God does Perpheads players drive like shit.

The problem with this is that power growing makes such easy and fast money that there is frankly no reason to buy a lesser car but instead just save up to buy a hyper car. This is what most of the player base does, including new players, and this is part of what this discussion is aiming to fix.

Please let me know what you think but I feel like your point doesn’t really relate / tie in to the point we’re at in this discussion given how it’s progressed with the input thus far.

my car gets stolen and tiered enough, i dont need any of them having a slight boost as it will cause them too get tiered even more, by my shit driving or anyone elses

I understand why you feel that way and where you’re coming from.

I think likely Whether the car you tier with is a sports car, a mini cooper or a Tesla is not decided by the mechanic.

the majority of players will continue to save up and buy hyper cars, never minding the inferior sports cars that max out at sub 80 MPH.

Another part of what this hopes to achieve is diversifying the selection of cars by remedying the current mediocracy that comes with buying sports cars, or any lesser than a meta hyper car.

Most just choose to continue saving up then drive the meta hyper cars, leading to the majority of the cars you see on the road being like a handful of 10, while the paralake car club catalogue has probably 50, if not more unique selections that aren’t “meta,”

Why would people bother with anything other than when even sports cars like the RX7, EVO X, Supra, WRX and more all get dusted after all their upgrades by a simple patrol cruiser, let alone RTU.

Unfortunately this leads to them being sadly left behind or leading to players who wish to drive a non-hyper car they like to be forced to just give in to buying a hyper car.

 

[Japzzi/JoeReel]

The problem with this is that power growing makes such easy and fast money that there is frankly no reason to buy a lesser car but instead just save up to buy a hyper car.

This very well compliments my point.

You don't have to powergrow.
You don't have to buy a hyper car.
You don't have to be able to outrun a RTU-van or patrol cruiser.

You don't have to min-max to win more. Pick a car you like and run with it. I read a thread by Exrobite here the other day about how this obsession with winning is actually harming Roleplay.

Lastly I would like to ask: What is the point of making cars go even faster when the speed limit on the majority of the map is 40-50mph, something every car other than the Mini can achieve?

 

[MalekIsWeird]

This very well compliments my point.

You don't have to powergrow.
You don't have to buy a hyper car.
You don't have to be able to outrun a RTU-van or patrol cruiser.

You don't have to min-max to win more. Pick a car you like and run with it. I read a thread by Exrobite here the other day about how this obsession with winning is actually harming Roleplay.

i don’t know how to make it any more clear.

Most players are realistically going to play this way, this is not to support that behavior but we need to be realistic not idealistic when considering how the majority of the catalogue is impractical in play.

It’s not all the fault of civilians when we consider how quick some cops are to gun point, spike, pit, box and batter ram super early into chases. Let alone that there can be several of them chasing you at once and the rules say you can’t shoot or retaliate in any other way but run. There is no prison roleplay or further enjoyment, just a trip to a jail room where you afk.

Players need speed to balance that out.

But I digress, because this whole explanation addresses a point that clearly misses the mark of the goal behind this post which I might have reiterated already to you but I know that I have clarified multiple times.

Most players realistically are buying hyper cars, players should have the freedom to spend relatively the same money to relatively get similar performance regardless of if its a hyper car or not by using the Collier’s shop.

The current sports cars with upgrades I mentioned can’t even keep up with basic patrol cars, so in what world would most players bother with over half the car catalogue if only a handful few of hyper cars can actually be practical for everyday use?

They most likely wont and it’s probably going to stay this way if we can’t address the lack of diversity in viable options as well as freedom to manually tinker your car to your taste in performance for the right price.

Lastly I would like to ask: What is the point of making cars go even faster when the speed limit on the majority of the map is 40-50mph, something every car other than the Mini can achieve?

please refer to the large list of pros I made, the multiple points I explained to others and consider what I’m saying to you right now.

Most players aren’t willingly driving a car that goes 40-50 MPH every day, that’s just ridiculous. Especially when patrol cop cars go around 80 MPH

 

[WATER BEAN]

i just want to buy a cool car that isnt going 37 mph and atleast going 70 in second upgrade and im happy

 

[peeps]

This is just not feasible. It's not as simple as increasing the max speed number for every car. You can increase that and many vehicles would never reach that number. Horse power also needs to be altered, and once you change that number you also need to balance the handling and breaking and suspension etc. Doing this for every car is just a task that isn't worth the time it would take when we could be working on new content.

This is all without discussing whether it would actually be benificial for the gamemode.