[Poll] Rule 3.7

[rogue]

Any type of fortification or defence in the bazaar or business shops is prohibited.

Now I don't know about you but I don't agree with an outright ban for creating defenses in Bazaar and Business shops; especially the business shops where they're not really used as shops.

To be fair, I don't agree with an outright lift of it either, but I think some defenses should be allowed in the shops or something along those lines.

Obviously there should be more flex to this but I just want to know what the community thinks about it.



Please be honest and give your opinion no matter who you are.

 

[Mage]

Personally, I wasn't a massive fan of growing in bazaar or business shops, especially big numbers growing in shops. Baring in mind everything I say here is quite hypocritical as I used to do it myself. However they were a pain in the ass to raid from a citizen's perspectives because people would have their friends standing right outside so that you literally were unable to raid the shop. The only option was to gunpoint them and force them inside, but like I said the place was generally crowded with their friends so the only other option was to use bombs which were an invitation for cops to come along.

I'm pretty sure people still grow in shops, obviously without the defenses, but most of them probably don't grow there anymore due to the inability to have a proper defenses to protect themselves. I don't really see the problem with the usual 3 stack of concrete barriers in a shop as it's a normal type of defense. But the reason the rule was mainly added was because people would try to squeeze in a defense into a small shop generally causing huge movement restrictions when inside, for example this

or this

Now bare in mind these are mainly bazaar shop defenses, and on paint they look like there's far more movement space but if you build it in-game, the space to move in is very minor.

I feel like the rule is fine, people can still grow in the shops if they really want to. I don't mind if there's a normal stack of barricades, but if there's so many props in there that you can barely move, that's a problem and the rule was mainly added to stop those types of defenses from occurring as raiding them was a pain in the ass.

 

[attacker1983]

TBH i feel like its kind of stupid how your allowed defences in mcuews and puffer mart not bazaar shops

 

[CaughtRed]

I see no issue with putting wooden barriers up to hide your drugs(@TheBoss2015) But when you are putting down lights etc it starts to get a bit ridiculous. With the size of a bazaar shop its almost impossible to raid it, never mind adding lights and proper fortification. I would agree though it needs to be changed a bit. A moderator told one of my friends to move his three wooden barriers which were hiding our drugs in a bazaar. The shop was still raidable, and the props we had down were to hide things not fortification. So either the rule needs to be changed or it needs to be described better