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Punishment Type: Warning
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Dekkrior
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: Not Applicable
Your Steam Name: defke_atom
Your Roleplay Name: cameron west
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:613056035
Why were you punished?: 3.4 - User lingered in the area of a shootout before picking up a gun, leading to his death
Why should this appeal be considered?: considering the situation and Rule 3.4, I would like ask for the warning to be reconsidered.
The main context I feel is being overlooked is that the shootout was taking place at my own base. I did not intentionally walk into a random shootout to participate in it. Once the shooting started, I attempted to get away from the situation but ended up trapped in the sewer wich led to a dead-end wich i wasnt aware of at the time.
My armed friend was then killed, and I picked up the weapon he dropped. I understand that doing so made me more of a target to the raiders and ultimately led them to kill me me. However, I did not pick up the weapon to join the shootout, loot a weapon for personal gain or escalate the situation. I took cover and did not use the weapon for offensive ussage.
Rule 3.4 states that players must not take actions that put their life, safety or freedom from jail at serious risk "without a good reason." I believe being trapped inside a small sewer an active raid on my base, after my armed friend had been killed, provides a reasonable justification for taking the available weapon rather than remaining completely defenseless. As i was trapped with shooters outside.
I also understand the point that I could have tried to surrender or find another way out. However, i could hear the raiders walking directly outside the only exit i had, also I havent seen a rule stating that i in this situation is required to surrender. if no direct threat was there, also surrendering makes me a bigger target then hiding crouched in a corner. i was trying to surrender to the raiders when they entered the sewers but they killed me before they let me. i also believe the raiders would have shot me even if i was surrenderd.
I am not arguing that picking up the weapon carried no risk. I accept that it increased my visibility to the raiders. My point is that the increased risk was a consequence of trying to survive and get out of an already active situation, rather than the reason I remained there. i was activly trying to get out. but seeing my consequences of getting stuck and my friend giving away my hiding spot i had to find a way to protect myself cause i had an obvious target with or without gun.
I would appreciate the warning being reconsidered based on the full context and video. If the warning is still considered valid, could you please clarify clearly the specific action you believe violated 3.4 and why the circumstances did not constitute a "good reason" under the wording of the rule? as it can be seen i didnt try to loiter. pheraps the wording of the warning was a mistake.
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @Dekkrior
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: Not Applicable
Your Steam Name: defke_atom
Your Roleplay Name: cameron west
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:613056035
Why were you punished?: 3.4 - User lingered in the area of a shootout before picking up a gun, leading to his death
Why should this appeal be considered?: considering the situation and Rule 3.4, I would like ask for the warning to be reconsidered.
The main context I feel is being overlooked is that the shootout was taking place at my own base. I did not intentionally walk into a random shootout to participate in it. Once the shooting started, I attempted to get away from the situation but ended up trapped in the sewer wich led to a dead-end wich i wasnt aware of at the time.
My armed friend was then killed, and I picked up the weapon he dropped. I understand that doing so made me more of a target to the raiders and ultimately led them to kill me me. However, I did not pick up the weapon to join the shootout, loot a weapon for personal gain or escalate the situation. I took cover and did not use the weapon for offensive ussage.
Rule 3.4 states that players must not take actions that put their life, safety or freedom from jail at serious risk "without a good reason." I believe being trapped inside a small sewer an active raid on my base, after my armed friend had been killed, provides a reasonable justification for taking the available weapon rather than remaining completely defenseless. As i was trapped with shooters outside.
I also understand the point that I could have tried to surrender or find another way out. However, i could hear the raiders walking directly outside the only exit i had, also I havent seen a rule stating that i in this situation is required to surrender. if no direct threat was there, also surrendering makes me a bigger target then hiding crouched in a corner. i was trying to surrender to the raiders when they entered the sewers but they killed me before they let me. i also believe the raiders would have shot me even if i was surrenderd.
I am not arguing that picking up the weapon carried no risk. I accept that it increased my visibility to the raiders. My point is that the increased risk was a consequence of trying to survive and get out of an already active situation, rather than the reason I remained there. i was activly trying to get out. but seeing my consequences of getting stuck and my friend giving away my hiding spot i had to find a way to protect myself cause i had an obvious target with or without gun.
I would appreciate the warning being reconsidered based on the full context and video. If the warning is still considered valid, could you please clarify clearly the specific action you believe violated 3.4 and why the circumstances did not constitute a "good reason" under the wording of the rule? as it can be seen i didnt try to loiter. pheraps the wording of the warning was a mistake.
