Theft Related Offences - Theft, Burglary, Robbery & Aggravated Burglary

[Tyla Jai]

Is this a new law or a change to a current law: Both

What law do you wish to change/add: I will write the laws properly if this is accepted, but here is a general gist of the differences between these offences. In doing this we would be re-writing the theft law as-well as removing the "breaking and entering" legislation. Below is in order of seriousness.

11.6 Theft
A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it, liable to 3 years imprisonment and/or $3,000 fine including asset forfeiture.

11.7 Burglary
A person is guilty of burglary if he enters a property or any part of a property with the intention to commit theft, cause unlawful damage or to inflict unlawful serious injury, liable to 6 years imprisonment and/or $6,000 fine, including asset forfeiture.

11.8 Robbery
A person is guilty of robbery if he steals, and immediately before or at the time of doing so, he uses force on any person or seeks to put any person in fear of being then and there subjected to force, liable to 7 years imprisonment and/or $7,000 fine, including asset forfeiture.

11.9 Aggravated Burglary
A person is guilty of an aggravated burglary if he commits any burglary and at the time has with him any firearm or imitation firearm, any weapon of offence, or any explosive, liable to 9 years imprisonment and/or $9,000 fine, including asset forfeiture.

Why should this change/addition be made: The change promotes more suitable sentencing for players robbing others and this falling under a simple theft. There is a clear tier system in my version of the theft related offences with theft being the lowest level and aggravated burglary being the highest. |This system is much easier to understand than the current as it uses common words such as "burglary", "robbery" which people understand.

What is the aim of this change/addition: The aim is to provide more tiers to theft related offences improving sentencing and realism.

Additional Information: Inspired by @Hayden armed robbery suggestion, which this would be my alternative to that.

 

[Tyla Jai]

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[Deleted member 5577]

i can give you 100 reasons why marriage is stupid

Financial benefits tho

 

[Deleted member 2223]

i can give you 100 reasons why marriage is stupid

you can finally have sex if you get married

 

[Bnjemann]

ive never seen anyone do a sneeky break in tbh

@Sorle true perp ninja

 

[Auris]

you can finally have sex if you get married

if he loses his v card ill circumcise my self with a nut cracker

 

[Auris]

what about a petty theft law
any item under lets say 1,000 counts as petty theft the item gets returned and you get up to 3 years in jail and a 2k fine ??

 

[Deleted member 2223]

if he loses his v card ill circumcise my self with a nut cracker

Tyla jai, the first garry's mod player to lose his virginity?

 

[Auris]

Tyla jai, the first garry's mod player to lose his virginity?

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[Deleted member 2223]

bruh he will never name me one person who plays here regularly that's felt the touch of a woman exactly fucking no one

New contraception idea, if you don't want children play perpheads

 

[Double J]

what about a petty theft law
any item under lets say 1,000 counts as petty theft the item gets returned and you get up to 3 years in jail and a 2k fine ??

No need, 11.6 Theft sums it up.

 

[blobvis 2.0]

aka every time someone steals a car 7y7k?
aka every time someone passes by at the wrong time 9y9k?
aka every crowbar/bobby pin 6y6k?


Sorry I cant support this due to the community sometimes being butthurt and will deliver the full blows of this (max sentence every time for just one crowbar or carrying a pistol you shouldnt have there). I rather see this not implemented as it will be used. I rather keep it this or only add one specific law instead of implementing this set of laws for bigger thefts (or higher it slightly to like 4y4k, 5y4k)

Also your burglary literally says if u enter bazaar (part of property) or a garden at subs with a weapon you can be charged with 11.9 due to how 11.7 is written too due to the fact intentions are POV (you can see it as visiting while a cop might see it as you trying to enter the property (burglary)

AKA this suggestion will just result in more shootouts as now you have more reasons to shoot cops, awesome, we didn't have enough of them yet!

 

[Tyla Jai]

aka every time someone steals a car 7y7k?
aka every time someone passes by at the wrong time 9y9k?
aka every crowbar/bobby pin 6y6k?


Sorry I cant support this due to the community sometimes being butthurt and will deliver the full blows of this (max sentence every time for just one crowbar or carrying a pistol you shouldnt have there). I rather see this not implemented as it will be used. I rather keep it this or only add one specific law instead of implementing this set of laws for bigger thefts (or higher it slightly to like 4y4k, 5y4k)

Also your burglary literally says if u enter bazaar (part of property) or a garden at subs with a weapon you can be charged with 11.9 due to how 11.7 is written too due to the fact intentions are POV (you can see it as visiting while a cop might see it as you trying to enter the property (burglary)

AKA this suggestion will just result in more shootouts as now you have more reasons to shoot cops, awesome, we didn't have enough of them yet!

aka every time someone steals a car 7y7k?

No, if you read the definition that's theft, not burglary.

aka every time someone passes by at the wrong time 9y9k?

No?

aka every crowbar/bobby pin 6y6k?

Yes? What's wrong with that.

 

[Tyla Jai]

aka every time someone steals a car 7y7k?
aka every time someone passes by at the wrong time 9y9k?
aka every crowbar/bobby pin 6y6k?


Sorry I cant support this due to the community sometimes being butthurt and will deliver the full blows of this (max sentence every time for just one crowbar or carrying a pistol you shouldnt have there). I rather see this not implemented as it will be used. I rather keep it this or only add one specific law instead of implementing this set of laws for bigger thefts (or higher it slightly to like 4y4k, 5y4k)

Also your burglary literally says if u enter bazaar (part of property) or a garden at subs with a weapon you can be charged with 11.9 due to how 11.7 is written too due to the fact intentions are POV (you can see it as visiting while a cop might see it as you trying to enter the property (burglary)

AKA this suggestion will just result in more shootouts as now you have more reasons to shoot cops, awesome, we didn't have enough of them yet!

Also your burglary literally says if u enter bazaar (part of property) or a garden at subs with a weapon you can be charged with 11.9 due to how 11.7 is written too due to the fact intentions are POV (you can see it as visiting while a cop might see it as you trying to enter the property (burglary)

You don't enter the bazaar as a trespasser, you only enter the property or part of the property if you cross the threshold of the market stall. It is only a burglary if you try to break in, there is barely any change here from the current law so not sure what you're trying to get at.

 

[Tyla Jai]

For clarity - the exact punishments aren't really relevant here, it's just examples, these can be discussed by the chiefs if this law change is accepted. Thanks.

 

[Hayden]

This will be written up and placed into the backlog for voting