Rule Suggestion (Forum Rule 2.5)

[Exnem]

Suggestion Topic: Other
Suggestion Description: Forum rule 2.5. Add the following.

Users may not create an Action Request on behalf of another if they had no involvement with the situation in question unless requested to do so by an involved user. Merely witnessing the situation does not necessarily imply involvement and is subject to an administrator's discretion.

Why should this be added?:
- As of right now, a lot of artificial traffic is being generated by uninvolved players who simply just want to act as a vigilante for the community. This isn't always desired by either party of a situation. More often than not, victimless occurrences (sans participants) tend to generate additional action requests that create more work for staff to filter through. Unless the people involved or a staff member want something done with it, nobody else should have a say.

What negatives could this have?:
- None that I can think of. What negatives I thought of, I tried solving in the original suggestion.

 

[Exnem]

As much as I agree with some of everyone's points, I'll play the devil's advocate for a moment:

These clips being posted publicly and shared, sometimes makes people believe that those actions are okay - sometimes they even end up being used as references within reports to show "But this person did it, posted it and it was okay".

And a lot of times people are bothered by those rulebreaks, but just can't be arsed to look like the bad guy, so they end up not reporting it - I think every staff member in an organization can attest to that (direct reports, but too lazy for the F6 button)

The point of ARs is not only to report something, but they are also public so the playerbase gets an insight into our moderation practices.

And I will agree with @Exnem that overenforcing rules can definitely be problematic, however showing a pattern of disregard for the enforcement of something does lead people into believing it's okay. But I also won't sit here and agree that being super strict about everything is the way forward either.

"Back in my day" we'd bury our minging clips and not share them publicly (or at least wait until nobody would punish you for it anymore). It was expected that if we'd post ourselves doing something stupid, that we'd also get punished for it.

I'll repeat what I said in the shoutbox, as a way of clarifying further.

The whole point of the suggestion is to defeat weaponizing the forums against people who have posted something here, that's it. if the people who were part of whatever situation the video's about, it's up to them if they want to get the people in said video punished by making their own reports. you do not need to white knight the "victims"

Again, this suggestion is not about relaxing or tightening rule enforcement in that sense, it's stopping people from weaponizing the forums. If a staff member sees the video, there's still nothing stopping them from pursuing it if they think it's a problem.

 

[dankor]

I'll repeat what I said in the shoutbox, as a way of clarifying further.

Again, this suggestion is not about relaxing or tightening rule enforcement in that sense, it's stopping people from weaponizing the forums. If a staff member sees the video, there's still nothing stopping them from pursuing it if they think it's a problem.

+rep

 

[dankor]

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