Rule Suggestion (2.5 Excessive Negativity)

ok, if you bobby pin a door and they don't hear you what happens then? Everyone should have trigger discipline. What your doing with this rule change is enabling people to go in quietly and then if they don't have their hands up you can shoot them. Then the only way to attempt to prevent this would be making it a rule break. However I do agree if people know they are being raided and unarmed they should be putting their hands up.

I think that for your own safety that if you don't see their hands you should be able to shoot them. Often people have pistols in their hands, but their hands are behind a barricade and you have no clue if they're about to shoot you or not.

There is a reason this is how it is. People would just immediately die every time they get raided without any roleplay if they are unarmed. It is not a fun way to have to wait 5 minutes if you die every time you do not have a gun.

You should just not shoot anyone that isn't visibly armed, if you gunpoint them ordering them to put their hands up and they instead get behind cover they are breaking rule 3.4 (if they are unarmed) and should be reported. If there is absolutely no reasonable way to get a gun if you are unarmed, you should ALWAYS comply, even if you can get in cover. If you cannot SAFELY RUN somewhere without putting your life at risk in the near future or right then and there, DON'T run/hide.

It really is not that hard and I don't think this rule change will make it any better.

edit: If they disobey your order you can also just shoot them as they break rule 3.4.

Medium said:

There is a reason this is how it is. People would just immediately die every time they get raided without any roleplay if they are unarmed. It is not a fun way to have to wait 5 minutes if you die every time you do not have a gun.

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The point her is as what

Dahweeble said:

Often people have pistols in their hands, but their hands are behind a barricade

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Said I totally agree with him and it’s aids

You are saying

Medium said:

There is a reason this is how it is. People would just immediately die every time they get raided without any roleplay if they are unarme

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They can rp as they can put there hands up and don’t get shot instade of hiding behind barricade and that would anyone act if he get raid

Why raider would put he’s life in risk ? Especially if the guy hiding behind something

BIGJIMMY69 said:

ok, if you bobby pin a door and they don't hear you what happens then?

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If he see arms ppl in he’s base / see he’s door open and ppl with guns just put he’s hands up ?

I mean that rule will benefit both sides since raiders wont get ban/warning for something stupid and defender won’t get kill

ALOO89 said:

They can rp as they can put there hands up and don’t get shot instade of hiding behind barricade and that would anyone act if he get raid

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If you say 'Put your hands up!' and he decides to go into cover, you can shoot him, as I said.

ALOO89 said:

The point her is as what

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This is a roleplay server.

Medium said:

This is a roleplay server.

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I meant what @Dahweeble said

Dahweeble said:

Often people have pistols in their hands, but their hands are behind a barricade

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This is not necessary, the rule is fine as it is.

It's honestly not that hard to distinguish armed people from unarmed people while raiding, and if players are purposefully peaking you whilst being unarmed, they are breaking 3.4 within themselves, so you wouldn't be punished for 2.5 if you accidentally killed them.

An example can be seen in this clip:

1. The unarmed person complied and put their hands up
2. The person who had a weapon ran behind cover to pull his weapon out
3. I only shot the visibly armed people and waited to see if the others were visibly armed before shooting them.

Megasaw said:

This is not necessary, the rule is fine as it is.

It's honestly not that hard to distinguish armed people from unarmed people while raiding, and if players are purposefully peaking you whilst being unarmed, they are breaking 3.4 within themselves, so you wouldn't be punished for 2.5 if you accidentally killed them.

An example can be seen in this clip:

1. The unarmed person complied and put their hands up
2. The person who had a weapon ran behind cover to pull his weapon out
3. I only shot the visibly armed people and waited to see if the others were visibly armed before shooting them.

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Her they are not real good shooters they could get you especially first guy as he was holding gun behind cover and it would be so annoying if you got killed by him

Megasaw said:

This is not necessary, the rule is fine as it is.

It's honestly not that hard to distinguish armed people from unarmed people while raiding, and if players are purposefully peaking you whilst being unarmed, they are breaking 3.4 within themselves, so you wouldn't be punished for 2.5 if you accidentally killed them.

An example can be seen in this clip:

1. The unarmed person complied and put their hands up
2. The person who had a weapon ran behind cover to pull his weapon out
3. I only shot the visibly armed people and waited to see if the others were visibly armed before shooting them.

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What a lovely clip Daym Yh i completely agree I don’t think it’s too hard to find out who has a gun or not just don’t be so trigger happy and go in spraying everybody you see think before you shoot is my moto