Rule Suggestion (3.23 Placing Drugs)

Pugga · 2025-09-05T14:58:13+0100

Suggestion Topic:
3.23 Placing Drugs
Suggestion Description:
Banning growing in the sewers. Current the rule is:
3.11 Placing Drugs
Players must not place drugs in areas that are not accessible without jumping or crouching, unless they are transporting the drugs in a timely manner. In addition, drugs may also not be placed within any public building or in shops.
I propose that its changed to this:
Players must not place drugs in areas that are not accessible without jumping or crouching, unless they are transporting the drugs in a timely manner. In addition, drugs may also not be placed within any public buildings, shops or the sewers

The sewers is only accessible by a ladder or crouch walking down a tube, but somehow you can still grow in them? I have checked the sewers regulary every few hours for the past few days and only 1 time someone hasnt been growing drugs there and thats because I had already took them 2 hours prior

There was 4 people in there at onepoint, all growing at the same time

Why should this be added?:
- Stops people holidng a hallway killing anyone that enters
- Theoretically its already a rulebreak as you have to jump/crouch/climb down/up ladders to get there, but is somehow allowed
- Stops shooting when they think there is drugs when there is not
- Currently more people base there than actual basing at this rate
What negatives could this have?:
- Less experience/good players may not be happy with it

Tarone Idrin (mohammed) · 2025-09-05T15:07:50+0100

Ye growing in the sewers is super taboo and it just allows people to grow with no consequence and for a server that wants growing to have consequence its quite counter productive. For no real expansion on the rules regarding growing drugs in the sewers, what can and can't be allowed it makes it a really grey zone and the lack of expansion on the server rules make it really lacks any incentive allowing for people to grow with no consequence.

HarryThompson · 2025-09-05T15:19:49+0100

but its shit since people just come down and take it

WATER BEAN · 2025-09-05T15:28:07+0100

just go down take em all?

Lucius Husky · 2025-09-05T15:36:02+0100

I dont think it should be disallowed. It only requires crouching/ladder into the sewer, not at the actual places people grow.

Its a nice hidden spot for people that like the challenge.

Pugga · 2025-09-05T15:38:09+0100

Lucius Husky said:
I dont think it should be disallowed. It only requires crouching/ladder into the sewer, not at the actual places people grow.

Its a nice hidden spot for people that like the challenge.

If its allowed, the rules on KOSing people down there needs to be changed

As far as im aware you cant just KOS anyone down there with a gun, however the people "Defending" their drugs can just shoot you

BI$HOP · 2025-09-05T15:40:43+0100

The rules on going up against these guys are very annoying because as a raider you can't just KOS someone down there, but they can do it to you.

Lucius Husky · 2025-09-05T15:41:15+0100

Where is it stated that they can kos you? I dont believe the guys growing can kos you and shouldnt.

Pugga · 2025-09-05T15:42:32+0100

Lucius Husky said:
Where is it stated that they can kos you? I dont believe the guys growing can kos you and shouldnt.

Its not stated anywhere, but seems like the lee-way that is given right now as people are "Coming for their planters" which yes they are, but like the people dont know that until they get to the spot

BI$HOP · 2025-09-05T15:43:37+0100

Lucius Husky said:
Where is it stated that they can kos you? I dont believe the guys growing can kos you and shouldnt.

I've been KOSed down there about five times.

Never was aware it was against the rules or I would've reported it.

Lucius Husky · 2025-09-05T15:44:35+0100

Pugga said:
Its not stated anywhere, but seems like the lee-way that is given right now as people are "Coming for their planters" which yes they are, but like the people dont know that until they get to the spot

Yeah in no way should they kos and reports should be made. Its 2.5 to just straight up kos there. If it looks like people are going towards the planters you can obviously defend your planters. But just straight up kos shouldnt happen.

Although I do agree that it does make it a bit of a difficult situation as the guideline usually is that you ignore people with guns in hands, so it would be very hard to take their drugs without them shooting you instantly.

Perhaps a suggestion where as a raider/mugger you can KOS people growing in the sewers only if they have their gun in their hands.

Lucius Husky · 2025-09-05T15:45:26+0100

Best way to approach right now would probably be if you get gunpointed by the people growing and told to leave, and then shoot them when you're far away and safe to do so.

Pugga · 2025-09-05T15:48:06+0100

Lucius Husky said:
Best way to approach right now would probably be if you get gunpointed by the people growing and told to leave, and then shoot them when you're far away and safe to do so.

yeah but they mug you instead of gunpointing you?

If it looks like people are going towards the planters you can obviously defend your planters. But just straight up kos shouldnt happen.

They always grow in the little side room, and sit at the front, so if you go down there you are Kos-able as you are going for the planters. And there is no way to know if there is planters until you get down there past the people who are growing

Perhaps a suggestion where as a raider/mugger you can KOS people growing in the sewers only if they have their gun in their hands.

but the planters are out of view, so you either just shoot them and pray they have planters, or risk getting robbed yourself

Bnjemann · 2025-09-05T15:56:17+0100

I was under the impression that all sewer access to a degree, at least to the deeper portions, requires crouching to get to? As such this would already be the case that planting is prohibited there no?

HarryThompson · 2025-09-05T15:58:11+0100

i dont understand why the people planting can do anything? i can just walk up to them and harvest infront of them right? since they cant gp someone with a gun in their hand

Pugga · 2025-09-05T16:00:15+0100

Bnjemann said:
I was under the impression that all sewer access to a degree, at least to the deeper portions, requires crouching to get to? As such this would already be the case that planting is prohibited there no?

What i assumed, but its allowed

Gamble · 2025-09-05T16:29:39+0100

I agree this should be taken into consideration. People are constantly growing in the sewers now to avoid drug yield problems and puts them at a big advantage from people coming in, since to go down there you need to take ladders and/or crouch all the way through.

As Bnjemann said, I was also sure that it was against the rules at the beginning since it literally states it on black and white that the area shouldn't require crouching or any sort of impediment, but apparently it is being allowed.

Bnjemann · 2025-09-05T16:59:49+0100

Pugga said:
What i assumed, but its allowed

If the drugs are not accessible without jumping or crouching, it’s not allowed by definition of the rule. The rule change therefor wouldn’t be necessary, and the solution would be to enforce a rule as written.

Eistee von Aldi · 2025-09-05T17:02:36+0100

i dont understand the problem.
You walk in with gun in hand, if somebody points their gun at you you can shoot them, if you are shot without pointing at anybody your report for 2.5

why would you let someone "KOS" you for going in a public place

Tinky · 2025-09-05T17:06:24+0100

Eistee von Aldi said:
i dont understand the problem.
You walk in with gun in hand, if somebody points their gun at you you can shoot them, if you are shot without pointing at anybody your report for 2.5

why would you let someone "KOS" you for going in a public place

By your logic, I can just stare them down as they stare at me until they get tired and just shoot them. Makes no sense

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