Rule Suggestion (3.4 Putting your Life at Risk)

Is this intended for people just going A to B or including people in a police chase aswell?

speklolly02 said:

Suggestion Topic: 3.4 Putting your Life at Risk
Suggestion Description: Not using the roundabout properly result in breaking rule ,3.4,3.15 since it is unrealistic to use it the wrong way, causes vehilce damage when someone is using the roundabout the right way, and you put urself in unnessary risk. Make it like the intersection before, if you dont have a valid reason it will result in breaking the rules/laws.

Why should this be added?:
- less car tiers on the roundaboud
Roundabout getting used like it supposed to be

What negatives could this have?:
- delay for cops to respond to tidals/business sector

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liamwharvey said:

Is this intended for people just going A to B or including people in a police chase aswell?

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I would say the same rules that applied at intersection before, so yes a police chase would be okay

speklolly02 said:

I would say the same rules that applied at intersection before, so yes a police chase would be okay

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it's a different map man get real

Approaching the roundabouts, even in this villainous nature, naturally slows the movement of the vehicle down to the point that it is generally not a threat to anyone's life, but merely the vehicle's integrity. This usually falls under 3.15 Driving and Damaging Vehicles if it causes an issue without a proper reason, and doing it without any reason in order to bait police is already grounds for 3.4 if proven to be the case.
I don't think this action generally risks a player’s life, well-being or freedom from imprisonment, and shouldn't fall under 3.4 unless there are other circumstances which are already covered under 3.4.

speklolly02 said:

Roundabout getting used like it supposed to be

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just remove the tree/walls from the middle and let people decide how they want to drive. paralakians can make sensible decisions

mimeyy said:

Approaching the roundabouts, even in this villainous nature, naturally slows the movement of the vehicle down to the point that it is generally not a threat to anyone's life, but merely the vehicle's integrity. This usually falls under 3.15 Driving and Damaging Vehicles if it causes an issue without a proper reason, and doing it without any reason in order to bait police is already grounds for 3.4 if proven to be the case.
I don't think this action generally risks a player’s life, well-being or freedom from imprisonment, and shouldn't fall under 3.4 unless there are other circumstances which are already covered under 3.4.

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ur straight capping ive tiered my cars about 6 times due to minis going the wrong way

this is why I arrest for driving wrong way on the roundabout. It’s very much reckless driving lol

if not drift why drift shaped?

I will hard downvote, the last thing we need is stricter rules hindering roleplay.

MalekIsWeird said:

if not drift why drift shaped?

I will hard downvote, the last thing we need is stricter rules hindering roleplay.

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Ah yes, the roleplay of purposely driving the wrong side of the roundabout to cause a collision and angrily scream at eachother.

To be fair, it's already being enforced under 3.15

Madlyn said:

Ah yes, the roleplay of purposely driving the wrong side of the roundabout to cause a collision and angrily scream at eachother.

To be fair, it's already being enforced under 3.15

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3.15 no longer covers this, only when driving on the highway and the exception when it comes to ramming cars out of parking spots unless I'm missing something.

Creepis said:

3.15 no longer covers this, only when driving on the highway and the exception when it comes to ramming cars out of parking spots unless I'm missing something.

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Really? @Tarone Idrin (mohammed) was warned for this on the 30th of July: 3.15 - User reversed and went the wrong way in a roundabout, causing a collision.

Which makes sense because 3.15 says
Players must always drive on the correct side of the highway. Vehicles - stolen or otherwise - must be driven to the best of a player’s ability so as to avoid collisions. There may be valid reasons not to do so, where the benefits outweigh the risks.

Madlyn said:

Really? @Tarone Idrin (mohammed) was warned for this on the 30th of July: 3.15 - User reversed and went the wrong way in a roundabout, causing a collision.

Which makes sense because 3.15 says
Players must always drive on the correct side of the highway. Vehicles - stolen or otherwise - must be driven to the best of a player’s ability so as to avoid collisions. There may be valid reasons not to do so, where the benefits outweigh the risks.

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If it was stolen then this is true, this is what the rule covers. However if it's your personal vehicle then no, unless the "otherwise" states something else?
This is something else that should be changed IMO I'll ask in Discord.

Creepis said:

If it was stolen then this is true. However if it's your personal vehicle then no.

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Wouldn't the "otherwise" part mean it also counts if it's a personal vehicle?
EDIT: See changed reply above ^

Madlyn said:

Ah yes, the roleplay of purposely driving the wrong side of the roundabout to cause a collision and angrily scream at eachother.

To be fair, it's already being enforced under 3.15

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Do you think people don’t joy ride

It’s a game, some of us love to drive and drift reckless around rather than shoot police 24/7

Realistically people do this for several reasons. Including “Swimmers,” like License or Wheres981,

If a crash happens, kill the person or force them to pay it as counter play to their recklessness, so conclusively it’s roleplay.

Madlyn said:

Really? @Tarone Idrin (mohammed) was warned for this on the 30th of July: 3.15 - User reversed and went the wrong way in a roundabout, causing a collision.

Which makes sense because 3.15 says
Players must always drive on the correct side of the highway. Vehicles - stolen or otherwise - must be driven to the best of a player’s ability so as to avoid collisions. There may be valid reasons not to do so, where the benefits outweigh the risks.

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That rule is unnecessary and hinders roleplay in my opinion.

If someone is deliberately crashing their car into everyone’s car stupidly like a crackhead, they can pay the consequences in repair costs instead of serving a ban or having warning plastered on their record. Let alone reversing on a round about…

Nowadays we have way too much money and money is easy to make to be acting like a rc repair for a few bumps deserves a whole rule to punish it.

MalekIsWeird said:

Do you think people don’t joy ride

It’s a game, some of us love to drive and drift reckless around rather than shoot police 24/7

Realistically people do this for several reasons. Including “Swimmers,” like License or Wheres981,

If a crash happens, kill the person or force them to pay it as counter play to their recklessness, so conclusively it’s roleplay.


That rule is unnecessary and hinders roleplay in my opinion.

If someone is deliberately crashing their car into everyone’s car stupidly like a crackhead, they can pay the consequences in repair costs instead of serving a ban or having warning plastered on their record. Let alone reversing on a round about…

Nowadays we have way too much money and money is easy to make to be acting like a rc repair for a few bumps deserves a whole rule to punish it.

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"It’s a game, some of us love to drive and drift reckless around rather than shoot police 24/7
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If a crash happens, kill the person or force them to pay it as counter play to their recklessness, so conclusively it’s roleplay."

You're arguing against "shooting police 24/7" as a form of repetitive and unrealistic RP, and then immediately suggest killing someone because they drove recklessly and hit your car. If the issue is realism and quality of roleplay, that logic just doesn't line up. You can't justify reckless driving as immersive RP, then turn around and say the proper response is to gun someone down in the street over a bumper tap. That's just replacing one poor RP habit with another.

"Nowadays we have way too much money and money is easy to make to be acting like a rc repair for a few bumps deserves a whole rule to punish it."

Maybe you do. But let’s be real about what those “few bumps” actually cost.
A Mazda Furai with tier 1 damage costs 160k to repair. Tier 2? 400k.
A Bugatti, with a lower scaling (roughly the same price for other supercars), costs 34k for tier 1 and 86k for tier 2.

And 90% of the time, the person who causes the crash just shrugs, denies fault, and disappears faster than their driving skills. Refund? Nah. That’s not just a minor inconvenience.

If people want to drive recklessly, that’s fine, but they should do it at places where it does not impact other players. If you want to drift at the roundabout, it should be done with an actual reason and otherwise be ready to face consequences other than a 4 year jail sentence.