9.2 Physical assault with an offensive weapon (reword)

[Topher]

no. my description was focused on the nature of the assault. an assault shouldn't need to be successful in order to qualify as physical assault because your actions caused reckless physical endangerment with malicious intent. if tyrone tries to shoot you and fails because he's limp wristed and holding his gun sideways, it still makes sense to charge him with an assault. an easier to understand definition of 'physical assault' could be, for example: 'attack on someone's body'.

 

[Fielding]

That’s exactly what I’m saying, it’s physical, not just someone shooting next to you

Assault. At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm

legal definition @Garret_Pp would be the one to go into detail lol

 

[ErmakDimon]

Completely understand what you’re saying but then that would fall under 9.3 wouldn’t it? Or just attempting 9.2?

9.3 is threat of physical harm, why do you think assault doesnt fall under the law that literally has the name "assault" in it?

 

[Fielding]

Completely understand what you’re saying but then that would fall under 9.3 wouldn’t it? Or just attempting 9.2?

Its just perp laws making no sense. In reality perps assault would be battery and aggrevated battery if i recall properly.

Assault.

At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. --- Basically 9.3

Battery

At common law, an intentional unpermitted act causing harmful or offensive contact with the "person" of another.

Battery is concerned with the right to have one's body left alone by others. --- 9.1 but this can have a much better definition if i find the full law.


Aggravated Battery

When a battery is committed with intent to do serious harm or murder, or when it is done with a dangerous weapon, it isdescribed as aggravated. A weapon is considered dangerous whenever the purpose for using it is to cause death or seriousharm. State statutes define aggravated battery in various ways—such as assault with intent to kill. Under such statutes,assault means both battery and assault. It is punishable as a felony in all states. - 9.2

but it really depends from state to state, country to country..

Some states can say assault with a deadly weapon etc.. f.ex california Penal Code section 245(a)(1) - Assault with a Deadly Weapon

all battery definitions gotten from https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/battery

 

[galactacus_jones]

just replace perp laws with english common law for big memes

 

[Fielding]

just replace perp laws with english common law for big memes

yes lets get arrested for protecting our property when a rude aggressive dangerous man breaks in and tries to kill us!!111

 

[Dom_]

If you use common sense this shouldn't need a change.

 

[Fielding]

yo if you want to get in contact w/ me on teamspeak and maybe we can make a suggestion to replace the laws with battery, aggrevated battery and assault xd lol ez

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[galactacus_jones]

yes lets get arrested for protecting our property when a rude aggressive dangerous man breaks in and tries to kill us!!111

except that wouldn't happen

 

[nutrient10]

@ErmakDimon yo if you want to get in contact w/ me on teamspeak and maybe we can make a suggestion to replace the laws with battery, aggrevated battery and assault xd lol ez

Was just about to reply saying to possibly do this, very gud idea

 

[ErmakDimon]

If you use common sense this shouldn't need a change.

the way this law is worded if i charge someone with 9.2 if he didnt actually cause injury to anyone it would be an ezpz ia

 

[Fielding]

except that wouldn't happen

shit!!!

 

[Dom_]

the way this law is worded if i charge someone with 9.2 if he didnt actually cause injury to anyone it would be an ezpz ia

IA isn't retarded, they use their common sense too.
What are they gonna say in the IA? He gave me 8 years when i tried to kill someone but my aim is bad and i missed so it doesn't count!

 

[ErmakDimon]

IA isn't retarded, they use their common sense too.
What are they gonna say in the IA? He gave me 8 years when i tried to kill someone but my aim is bad and i missed so it doesn't count!

You say that, yet I once got a reprimand for "not dealing" with a fight, I just bandaged up the guy that got hurt. These days you get ias for just about anything, and from a penal code point of view, it would be valid

 

[Crimson Nugget]

But that's interpreting the law how you want to.

Common sense doesn't override the law, if it says "Cause injury" then you shouldn't charge someone for it if they didn't cause any injuries.

 

[Crimson Nugget]

You say that, yet I once got a reprimand for "not dealing" with a fight, I just bandaged up the guy that got hurt. These days you get ias for just about anything, and from a penal code point of view, it would be valid

Here we go again.

 

[ErmakDimon]

Ermak didn’t arrest/charge anyone for it, that’s why he got a reprimand, not that he did charge someone

It was just an example of how you get ias for anything. No actual relation to the discussion

 

[Topher]

But that's interpreting the law how you want to.

Common sense doesn't override the law, if it says "Cause injury" then you shouldn't charge someone for it if they didn't cause any injuries.

just lie and say that a shot hit and that the medics had to patch him up. you don't have to provide your demo, only a statement, use it.

 

[ErmakDimon]

I don’t even know what you’re talking about anymore, I was simply correcting him, how does that have anything todo with this discussion?

Because I got a reprimand for something unrelated to this, and crimson was referring to dom's reply

 

[Crimson Nugget]

I don’t even know what you’re talking about anymore, I was simply correcting him, how does that have anything todo with this discussion?

What did you correct? I was responding to this:

IA isn't retarded, they use their common sense too.
What are they gonna say in the IA? He gave me 8 years when i tried to kill someone but my aim is bad and i missed so it doesn't count!