Ban Dispute (JJB)

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Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @JJB
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 1 Week

Your Steam Name: Blank234234
Your Roleplay Name: Luka fischer
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:539690941

Why were you punished?: 3.4 - User failed to comply under gunpoint.

Why should this appeal be considered?: First of all, Even if its not fully revoked I want this change back to 3 days, he banned me for 3 days and then even said it was for 3 days and he changed it to 7, What happened was I was at tidals and I went up and a cop held me at gun point and said run you're free to go and he was the highest rank there. when I ran down and tried running away 2 cops stopped me and said hands up hands up, and it was 2 brand new pistol cops. So i told them your highest rank here told me to run so i can leave, and then they argued saying we dont care if he said that, (completely not rping at all, i mean their higher rank told me to let me go and they still held me at gun point) and the admin replied with "Doesnt matter if one said to go and one didnt) Which is confusing because he's saying even since THE HIGHEST OFFICER THERE TOLD ME TO LEAVE, I can't leave when another cop brand new shows up and holds me there at gun point after witnessing his higher up telling me to run away

Additional Information: The ban was for 3 days and he banned me for 7, at the very least I want this changed back. (2 cops held me at gun point the highest up told me to leave and the brand new pistol cop said hands up, I got banned cause I listened to the highest rank officer and left the area, and they chased me and i turned a corner and pulled a gun and shot them because they were clearly minging after just witnessing their higher up letting me go,
 
Are you disputing the validity of the ban, or are you claiming the ban is valid but it's excessive and should be reduced given what he told you on the F6?
 
if 2 cops hold u at gunpoint tell you to do something what do you do, Listen to the highest up there that tells you to leave, or the brand new pistol cop saying hands up, in this picture you can see that he clearly understood that there was 2 cops doing the exact opposite telling me what to do, so i listened to the higher rank and ran away from the area
 
Are you disputing the validity of the ban, or are you claiming the ban is valid but it's excessive and should be reduced given what he told you on the F6?
if i go with one or the other is that the only chance and if its denied i cant make another?
 
if i go with one or the other is that the only chance and if its denied i cant make another?
You can make one ban dispute, if you believe any part of the ban was invalid. This can be done even after the ban has expired, if you want to have your record corrected.
You cannot create another ban dispute if the first is denied.
You cannot dispute the length of a ban here, that would need to be done via a staff complaint against the staff member who issued the ban.
If you accept the ban was valid, but you regret the actions you made, you can make a ban apology whilst the ban is still active. You can make multiple apologies if the others are denied, however there's no guarantee an apology will be accepted, and no guarantee that if it is, the ban will be significantly reduced.
 




The punishment for rule 3.4 is extremely valid in this case. You completely ignored gunpoint twice, and for a significant time. The ban reasoning will be amended to reflect this.

The reason the ban reason did not reflect this is most likely because more evidence of a second situation you were involved with came to light. I believe @JJB has personally reached out to you about this and explained.

As for the length of the ban itself, if you think the ban was excessive in any way, you will need to open a staff complaint. We only handle the validity of bans here, not their length.

Reviewed with @Creepis @Vollgas @Ellie
 
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