Ban Dispute (omega)

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Punishment Type: Ban
Punishment Subtype: Server Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute[Evidence]
Which staff member issued the punishment?: @omega
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 1 Day

Your Steam Name: juso1599
Your Roleplay Name: john denmark
Your SteamID: 76561199197794393

Why were you punished?:
2.5, 3.4 - User shot someone who was actively shooting at cops, their reason for doing this was they believed the player could have shot them, whilst this was true, they should have just left if they thought this was the case but they instead endangered their life and engaged with a shootout whilst cops were in the area.

Why should this appeal be considered?: Well i dont think its against the rules or anything let me explain my point of view. I came out from my apartment building and i saw a guy hiding behind a van at the end of the stairs leading up to the parking lot. I heard sirens so he was clearly shooting at police officers but at the time he was just hiding so i assumed all the officers got killed and he is there alone now i saw the dead body of his teammate. He had an m4a1 with a sight on it. I quickly pressed ctrl and hid under a tree so he wouldnt see me from his point of view and then slowly approached when i was at the distance where i knew i would hit him for sure i aimed my gun at his head and shot. I was banned for breaking the rules 2.5, 3.4 i dont recon breaking the rule 2.5 thats just pure nonsense and i admit that the 3.4 rule like i would normaly fear my life but i had a gun and i had the advantage over him he couldnt see me i could he wasnt looking at me i was he wasnt aiming at me i was. So it was just a clear shot. In real life if i had a gun and someone was being a serious threat near my residence where i live and the police wouldnt be able to do anything about it and i knew i wouldnt get harmed i would act and do the same thing.
 
I also saw someone it was either the teammate or the guy i shot. Someone came to their dead bodies and grabbed a gun from there then ran away with it i think one or the officer catched them but im not sure.
 


After reviewing your demo, it is clear that the punishment is valid. You violated rule 2.5 because you decided to kill one of the shooters while they weren't even looking in your direction. Not only that, but you shouldn't have been there in the first place; you also violated rule 3.4 by endangering your own life instead of leaving the area immediately. You basically walked toward an active shootout that you had no involvement in, solely to loot weapons.

3.4 Putting your Life at Risk
You must not take actions that put your life, safety or freedom from jail at serious risk without a good reason.
Examples of unreasonable risks include:
  • Ignoring reasonable orders when your life is in danger, such as at gunpoint
  • Staying near shootouts while unarmed or uninvolved, or only to loot weapons
  • Failing to avoid Police attention after committing a crime or leave crime scenes or warranted properties promptly
  • Running on the highway without a good reason
  • Committing serious crimes where Police can see you
  • Fleeing/killing Police to avoid small fines or sentences
  • Excessively prank calling 911 without a good reason
Valid reasons to kill Police include:
  • Avoiding a long prison sentence, typically 7+ years
  • Stopping them from seeing drugs being made
  • Committing a violent crime for which the Police would use lethal force to catch you.

We will, however, be amending your ban reason to accurately reflect what actually happened.

Previous Ban Reason:
2.5, 3.4 - User shot someone who was actively shooting at cops, their reason for doing this was they believed the player could have shot them, whilst this was true, they should have just left if they thought this was the case but they instead endangered their life and engaged with a shootout whilst cops were in the area.

Amended Ban Reason:
2.5, 3.4 - The user shot someone who was actively shooting at cops. Their reasoning was that they believed the player could have shot them, even though the player never actually pointed a weapon at them. If they genuinely believed their life was in danger, they should have simply left the area. Instead, they endangered their own life and engaged in a shootout they were not involved in, solely to loot weapons.

Please be more mindful of your actions in the future, especially regarding rules 2.5 and 3.4. I would highly recommend reading the guidelines for both rules to avoid future complications.

2.5 Guidelines & 3.4 Guidelines

Reviewed with:
@DemonZ @Matthew
 
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