Alright, I'll give some explanation, but at present I have no evidence/video - believe me or not (and if you don't, don't flaunt it because I don't care), but my demos didn't record too well today as you see from this screenshot:
Judging by the times all being 19:23, and me having closed my game at that time, I can only assume that the game spazzed out in some way.
But, Ben has kindly offered to get me the demo from the time I think I went to the property, and I'll drive over there and record it after New Year.
Now, my side of the story. We had a bunch of explosions at the PD and city area (obviously resulting in the various lockdowns today) and one of our suspects had DNA evidence from murdering an officer. Later, other officers advised that a red sportscar was what he was driving, and I was advised to check out the glassco. I pulled up to the gate, and a Mini which was also entering boxed me in. I explained that I would like to look at the vehicles, but I was refused, and a red sportscar with the same chrome-color description had just pulled out.
REGARDLESS of if that was the sportscar from earlier or not, I was still refused entry to the glassco, and according to laws, I can warrant a property for refusing LEO access to search.
Let's look at law 11.2, bit-by-bit.
So, I was advised to check the glassco/parker and so I approached the gate. I asked if I could look at the -VEHICLES- on the property, and I was refused access - this gave me other suspicions on the property.
This is exactly what had happened, so I returned to discuss with the S.W.A.T team for an appropriate plan of action, and we agreed that the SWAT and several police units would be deployed to raid it. We were already
past the stage at which we had to ask nicely to come in at this point, and so we continued to commence the raid as planned. The SWAT team did their own thing, coming over the back of Scrappy Joes, but I thought it would be advisable to get a warrant too, so I warranted it with the earlier suspicion (as that was our main reason to believe that our most wanted criminal was inside, but the refusal of the LEOs was the main reason for the raid).
Now, as for the rest of the laws, we complied with them from then on, and as Trande has pointed out:
Let's weigh this up.
I have the top-wanted criminal possibly inside a building, as indicated by a vehicle of matching description, and are refused entry onto the private property. If they had nothing to hide, like my top-wanted criminal, they wouldn't have refused me entry. And so, the raid was necessary as your actions were hugely suspicious, regardless of if they didn't correlate with the guy I was looking for in the end.
In terms of my response to this ban request - I am waiting to receive Ben's demo as a backup to mine not working, and I will find what I described above in terms of law 11.2 to record it. All the evidence provided shows is a raid which was provoked by your earlier reaction to the arrival of an LEO, and refusing entry. The evidence should technically carry no weight once I have uploaded my side, which is slightly prior to the raid.
I hope that with my evidence, we can settle this, because all that this shows is a raid that we can fully justify, and have done.
In response to everyone else:
As my evidence will show, I did come to your property to contact you. I've already given some explanation of the warrant reason in the post above.
That's quite a big accusation, 'well known metagamer' - can I see some evidence of that please? As for the 1.1 violation, I will not deny it, I did rage in looc, but you did provoke me by not following procedure outlined in rule 2.6 as Ash had (I believe) spoken to you about afterwards. It's pretty annoying when people go away from RP to whine about the RP. You sir, are also being very hypocritical:
and 2.6 here:
You clearly can't keep your cool, taking everything to OOC, which is actually against the rules.
You've also exaggerated what I said in an attempt to exacerbate the situation in a pathetic attempt to make me look bad:
You also said that 'I'm fucking' - you were equally, and originally disrespectful.
You said it's a fail to pull you over for speeding on a highway. Well, I regret to inform you mate that it's not the autobahn and does have various speedlimits; even then, I had made it clear to you it was for
reckless driving, but you still took it to LOOC breaking 2.6 - and to make matters worse, you abruptly ended the LOOC distraction and drove off even though you were already pulled over; it was clearly an excuse to distract us in RP.
You were leaving a property which was about to have SWAT presence anyway (because it was deemed high risk because of the number of people and the potential for our top suspect to be there), so the gunpoint shouldn't really be surprising. Another officer was with you, and was instructed to handle your detainment.
...which was driving recklessly and on the wrong side of the highway, putting people at risk, and so it had to be forcefully stopped, which is fine under the LEO's right to deploy firearms.
It doesn't matter at all if it was amazingly built and sorted, the reasoning was separate, and I raided them because of their lack of cooperation causing suspicion (I've already outlined why that is fine).
Unfortunately, you're wrong. I did speak to people on the property, and any demo from the time that I did will show that. I did so around 10 minutes before the raid.
"you cant just warrant anyone because you think there is going on something in there"
Actually, I was well within the rights to have a warrant, as I already explained when analyzing law 11.2
"warranting without even talking to them is also very wrong"
Well, that hasn't been proven that I hadn't talked to them at this point, has it? I did, will be proving that I did, and you as a member of staff in this community should not be making false accusations without evidence.
I could be sure we did, but that isn't my sole responsibility - it is the responsibility of everyone, the police, the SWAT - everyone participating in the raid.
You'll soon see that I did.
Yes, you turning me away and not allowing me to see if the potential suspect was on site gives me the right to warrant under 11.2.
