BR On Yoddo Cacuzza, Noah Santiago, Mattias Bishop-2.1, Possible 3.4

[ErmakDimon]

Your Steam/In-game Name: [PH] ErmakDimon/Dmitrii Ermakovich
His/Her Steam/In-game Name: Yoddo/Yoddo Cacuzza
Noah Santiago-Innocent
Mattie's Bishop-INNOCENT
His/Her SteamID:
Noah-

• STEAM_0:0:29981691

Why Should This Player Be Punished: Breaking 2.1-[/quot] make a BR if u like i got fair reason, u tresspassed my house and u looked at me funny and i didnt like ur questions [/quot]
[/quot] There is no way to make a sign... and u still tresspassed... i can kill any1 if they tresspass... [/quot] - Yoddo
as you can see in the demo or the video, there was no sign nor i entered his house so i wasn't tresspassing. Even if I did, it is not a valid reason to kill someone. When i stopped a Yellow Porsche, i was about to warn him or give him a ticket but then they came and gunpointed me. Even if i complied and was tied and gagged, they shot me.
Possible 3.4 the driver may have wanted to avoid the ticket
Evidence (Demo Required): https://mega.co.nz/#!HNFWmTBL!TsDnGXCPsaWX3WOmt-eauyGBmA1-sA4eyVjI1XTkwEI

Tick: 16000 for the whole situation, 30200 for the traffic stop

 

[Esteban]

Havent got time to look at the demo right now. But from what u stated, it sounds like he/they broke some major rules

 

[John Daymon]

Pointing out for the mod that is dealing with this; Noah Santiago has signed a contract where this is his last chance.

 

[Hoblit]

We actually told you many times that we had to get rid of you, We explained the situation but you only ignored us.

 

[Matt_Pogo]

I wasnt really involved in this, as I never knew they were going to kill you.

 

[John Daymon]

@ErmakDimon here you got Blacksmith / Noah's SteamID and steam name; SteamID;
STEAM_0:0:29981691
Steam name; Nonoswe

 

[Yoddo]

I shot this man because of the following reasons: He questioned me about the way my house had fences blocking the windows and he entered a part of my house ( the entrance ) so he trespassed my house.

Explanation: i wanted to do a man hunt on him for those reasons, after i found him i noticed that he was giving my friend a ticket so that also influenced on me killing him.
I killed him because there was more cops and he could alert the cop if i did let him go and cause more problems to me and to my friends that were basing with me.

I believe i did not break 2.1 as i had a valid reason to kill him and i never broke 3.4 because i never put my life at risk, i had 3 other man with guns pointed at the officer alone.

 

[ErmakDimon]

YT Video is now up

 

[Yoddo]

YT Video is now up

On 1:40 he trespasses into my property.
On 2:03 he questions about my base ( windows blocked )
On 9:54 I am not breaking 3.4 because hes not pointing the gun at me and i wasn't being threatened by anything and hes on gunpoint by 3 people.
On 10:16 we clearly say that we aren't there for the traffic ticket.
On 12:35 he talks about the sign but there is no possible way to make a sign ( there kinda is with the cash register but its not a real sign ).
[DOUBLEPOST=1427715026,1427714634][/DOUBLEPOST]I never went to kill you because my friend was recieving a ticket and i never put my life to risk because you never had a gun out pointed at my direction. It is a public view but there is clearly a step and fence quere you were at and also my props were there so that makes it a private property owned by me. Blocking windows are suspicious and you questioned me about it and i didnt like it.
[DOUBLEPOST=1427715540][/DOUBLEPOST][QUOTE="ErmakDimon you never went to kill me cause of ticket-ok. You didnt put your life at risk-ok. 3.4 is killing over a ticket in this situation, not putting life at risk. If you didn't like questions, that's not a valid reason to kill someone. If your props are placed somewhere, that doesn't makeitaprivateproperty[/QUOTE]

That area is clearly a private area from the house you cannot argue about it. I killed you for trespassing my house and also for questioning me why the windows are blocked.
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1. ErmakDimon If you see and LEO tresspassing, call a lieutenant. You also put your life at risk by killing an officer who knew not enough to arrest or punish you. So medic could scan DNA, find you, raid you and probably kill you

There was no lieutenant at the time you trespassed, you had no reason to arrest me or punish me for having a house with windows blocked, the max you could do is search my house which you did not do, there was no medic at the time and we moved ur body so no one could see it.

 

[BillySavery]

1. You have blocked your windows with wooden boards in a quiet, peaceful, neighborhood, he has every right to question you. In most cases police raid because of boarded windows.

2. A cop giving you a ticket shouldn't influence you to kill him, it is unrealistic.

 

[ErmakDimon]

There was no lieutenant at the time you trespassed, you had no reason to arrest me or punish me for having a house with windows blocked, the max you could do is search my house which you did not do, there was no medic at the time and we moved ur body so no one could see it.

I didn't say that I
Could arrest or punish you for barricaded windows. Your replies make no sense.
-mobile, unable to comment

 

[Yoddo]

1. You have blocked your windows with wooden boards in a quiet, peaceful, neighborhood, he has every right to question you. In most cases police raid because of boarded windows.

2. A cop giving you a ticket shouldn't influence you to kill him, it is unrealistic.

He does have every right to question me but i did not like his questioning because he trespassed.
It surely does make you angry to recieve a ticket and making urself angry does influence you to do something bad. The ticket was not for me was for my friend, the first reason i went to kill him for has nothing to do with the ticket just like in the video at: 10:16 we said it has nothing to do with the ticket.
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I didn't say that I
Could arrest or punish you for barricaded windows. Your replies make no sense.
-mobile, unable to comment

I never said that you could arrest or punish me for barricated windows.
I said that the max you could do is search my house.
The reply i explained what was the situation with the players on the server at the time. ( No medic or/and lieutenant. )

 

[Cole]

Well I can support that ban-request the same persons killed absoluty unnecessary a couple of minuts later, just for showing up.

 

[Hoblit]

I've spoken to the guy on the server and we came up with an answer, I explained that i did not break any rules and therefore he made me "innocent"

 

[Yoddo]

Well I can support that ban-request the same persons killed absoluty unnecessary a couple of minuts later, just for showing up.

I did not kill you there because i didnt know u were even there and i had no reason to kill you because my friends had kidnapped you.

I can upload demo if you would like to prove i didnt even know you were there and i didnt kill u.

 

[Ash]

From what i can see, there is no reason to kill him at all. Firstly, if he wants to question you about you house he has all the rights to do so and you cannot stop him from doing that. You have windows boarded up and a couple of metal detectors, surely he can speak to you. He spoke to you, which then you killed him?

Gone from nothing to 10 years?

There isn't a valid explanation which will define why you killed him, it's RDM from what i can see.

 

[Yoddo]

I killed his so i deserve the punishment for the RDM if be it. My friends just followed me to make sure i was going to be fine. I take blame for everything.

 

[Blicky]

Ban request accepted.

@BlackSmith will be receiving a permanent ban from the server. Blacksmith, you have been warned and even banned too many times for 3.4 and you should have learnt from these mistakes however you clearly have not. You have racked up a total of 8 bans and 12 Warnings and 2 of those warnings are for the exact same reason as this ban appeal.

You have had more than enough chances to correct your role-play and abide by the rules however clearly you have not learnt from your mistakes. You are also currently under a contract with @Ash where your next mistake would lead to a permanent ban and unfortunately you have broken your contract and must receive the punishment.


As For @Yoddo

Explanation: i wanted to do a man hunt on him for those reasons, after i found him i noticed that he was giving my friend a ticket so that also influenced on me killing him.

- This is a clear violation of 3.4.

Let's just read over the rule again:

Spoiler: 3.4

3.4 Putting your Life at Risk - Players must at all times act realistically, meaning that any actions taken that may put a player’s In-Character life, freedom from imprisonment and/or general wellbeing at risk must be done so in a realistic fashion, for realistically good/beneficial reasons and in such a way that can be justified as reasonable.


Risks are deemed to be unreasonable when it can’t be appropriately and effectively justified; for example, if a player was to rob the bank and fail, leading to their death, that player would be expected to demonstrate to an administrator that they had a realistic and reasonable plan and/or mind-set to succeed.


This rule is specifically relevant to the violation of any In-Character law, meaning that murders, thefts, etc, are all expected to be conducted realistically; for example, if a player kills another player, which results in the former’s death and/or imprisonment, it will mean that the player has failed and unless they can effectively and appropriately demonstrate/prove that they had a realistic and reasonable plan to succeed, an appropriate punishment will be enacted.


A common example would be for a player to murder a Police Officer in order to avoid receiving a traffic ticket; this would likely result in the enactment of an administrative punishment because this specific example is deemed to be inappropriate - this is because the risk (death/life-imprisonment) involved with the murder of a Police Officer is grossly disproportionate to the benefit of avoiding a traffic ticket, typically

You have admitted to breaking this rule, and it is also shown in the demo very clearly. Because of this you will be receiving a 5 day ban from the server. You also failed to take the storage NPC into account when running up the middle of the suburbs road with your guns out. thus adding to the punishment time received. Mattias (@Matt_Pogo) will also be receiving the same punishment as you Yoddo as you have both broke the same rules.