Change to rule 5.1 Mugging

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What rule do you wish to Edit/Add: 5.1 Mugging
Players are not allowed to mug more than 3 times in any 60 minute period; nor can they mug the same player twice, within any 60 minute period. Players may only mug other players in a realistic manner, for example mugging someone in the middle of a street is not realistic. Muggings should only take place in locations which are out of the view of the public. Players may not be forced to move out of public view under gunpoint prior to the mugging.

Whilst participating in a Mugging all players are expected to adhere to rule 2.5, this means that causing any unnecessary and unreasonable harm or damage to a player or their possessions is prohibited.

Items such as: Barricades, Furniture, crafting materials and seasonal items are not to be dropped during a mugging.


Your version of the rule:
Players are not allowed to mug more than 3 times in any 60 minute period; nor can they mug the same player twice, within any 60 minute period. Players may only mug other players in a realistic manner, for example mugging someone in the middle of a street is not realistic. Muggings should only take place in locations which are out of the view of the public. Players may not be forced to move out of public view under gunpoint prior to the mugging. In addition to this, Players may not camp near the drug dealer and mug people who interact with the NPC. Players may not be mugged who are doing 'Passive RP' Fishing unless they are doing illegal activities whilst 'fishing'.

Whilst participating in a Mugging all players are expected to adhere to rule 2.5, this means that causing any unnecessary and unreasonable harm or damage to a player or their possessions is prohibited.

Items such as: Barricades, Furniture, crafting materials and seasonal items are not to be dropped during a mugging.

Why do you believe this rule should be Added/Edited: At the moment, people just camp next to the drug dealer and mug anyone who interacts with him. It's toxic and not very realistic, it means people lose hard earned drugs,money and any items they possess. I Really don't see why you can camp near the drug dealer and mug anyone who interacts, it lets you mug 3 people within 60 minutes, That still lets people camp the drug dealer.
 
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Yeah, it's stupid you can camp at the drug dealer. And if you have a gun they yust kos you too and then say that they were trying to mug you but didn't see your gun so this would fix a lot. Not like the drug dealer would let people mug his costumers realistically idk why this is not against the rules anyway. However, I don't think you shouldnt be able to mug people doing passive rp as there is no way to know is the player growing or not.
 

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Like, the drug dealer isn't going to report a crime he witnessed, if you don't want to get mugged just go to DD with a gun in passive and shoot anyone who tries to mug you
 
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No doubt, it's sad that PassiveRP performers are often victims of getting mugged, but solving this problem by creating rules is not the way. We've seen multiple cases where overregulating things has led to restrictive roleplay meaning; less creativity and freedom in roleplaying.

Furthermore, we had the debate over mugging at the DD multiple times and the conclusion was always that the Drug Dealer wouldn't report criminal activities to the police (since he is performing them himself).
Also, criminal activities must always be risky, so giving people dealing drugs a safe-space at the DD will encourage the current situation of powergrowing that is sickening the server.

Finally, don't understand this as an offensive comment, but you can not ban everything that hinders your success in this game. After all, this server is supposed to emulate real-life (lol), which means that you must expect bad things to happen. Real-life and criminal activities (and combined) are not shiny barbie-world.
 

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Threads like this is precisely the reason I rarely play anymore. Theres 2 things that the server now is... farming money and tryharding shootouts. Fishing is not passive RP, you are literally spamming E just to farm money. There would be no risk in this if you could just fish 24/7 and not get mugged, everyone would do it and make 80-100k an hour for fuck all. Tiny even gave you an Atm next to thr pub so its absolutely simple. For me this just gives criminals less things to do and less rp, because shit like this is the only reason people still play on the server. To everyone crying passive rp is dead. Barely anyone comes here to passive rp, it dies off after a week. Passive rp wont boost tge playerbase nor is it why a majority of players play. Look at the existing suggestions and you can see what people really want. This is the most braindead snowflake suggestion I've ever seen and before some smart ass says "you just want to mug people for money" or im biased. I barely play so it doesnt bother me at all. It would just give me another reason not to play.
 

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What rule do you wish to Edit/Add: 5.1 Mugging
Players are not allowed to mug more than 3 times in any 60 minute period; nor can they mug the same player twice, within any 60 minute period. Players may only mug other players in a realistic manner, for example mugging someone in the middle of a street is not realistic. Muggings should only take place in locations which are out of the view of the public. Players may not be forced to move out of public view under gunpoint prior to the mugging.

Whilst participating in a Mugging all players are expected to adhere to rule 2.5, this means that causing any unnecessary and unreasonable harm or damage to a player or their possessions is prohibited.

Items such as: Barricades, Furniture, crafting materials and seasonal items are not to be dropped during a mugging.


Your version of the rule:
Players are not allowed to mug more than 3 times in any 60 minute period; nor can they mug the same player twice, within any 60 minute period. Players may only mug other players in a realistic manner, for example mugging someone in the middle of a street is not realistic. Muggings should only take place in locations which are out of the view of the public. Players may not be forced to move out of public view under gunpoint prior to the mugging. In addition to this, Players may not camp near the drug dealer and mug people who interact with the NPC. Players may not be mugged who are doing 'Passive RP' Fishing unless they are doing illegal activities whilst 'fishing'.

Whilst participating in a Mugging all players are expected to adhere to rule 2.5, this means that causing any unnecessary and unreasonable harm or damage to a player or their possessions is prohibited.

Items such as: Barricades, Furniture, crafting materials and seasonal items are not to be dropped during a mugging.

Why do you believe this rule should be Added/Edited: At the moment, people just camp next to the drug dealer and mug anyone who interacts with him. It's toxic and not very realistic, it means people lose hard earned drugs,money and any items they possess. I Really don't see why you can camp near the drug dealer and mug anyone who interacts, it lets you mug 3 people within 60 minutes, That still lets people camp the drug dealer.
You'd still play cop so this only gets you less shootouts and rp?
 

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Means nothing when the servers dead. Cop kills dont matter,only people that play cop can't handle civ and want free guns.
 
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If you barely play, then why would you go for Captain of patrol. I'm sorry, but when it's a rank like that, it needs a active captain in game and off it. You have basically said that you aren't active.
 
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In addition to this, Players may not camp near the drug dealer and mug people who interact with the NPC. Players may not be mugged who are doing 'Passive RP' Fishing unless they are doing illegal activities whilst 'fishing'.


Nobodies gonna go play Sherlock Holmes when they mug a fisherman lmfao.

Just fish on beach if you don't want to be mugged.

Plus drug dealer muggings are fine. Realistically you'd probably get mugged by the dealer tbh.
 
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