Fleeing Police

[MalekIsWeird]

when people flee police, do they need good reasons like a major sentence?
Do they flee a 1 year sentence?
Is there a middle ground or is it all gray area?
How lenient does fleeing get? Can a suspect flee police over a jay walking $750 ticket?

 

[Tarone Idrin (mohammed)]

Imo it's quite obvious cause irl would u really flee police over the most blatant shit and put ur car at risk of being tiered or spiked for the simplest thing ever? No

 

[MalekIsWeird]

Imo it's quite obvious cause irl would u really flee police over the most blatant shit and put ur car at risk of being tiered or spiked for the simplest thing ever? No

im trying to keep my opinion out of it because i dont want to sway or make this a post where arguments may turn heated but i want to give my input on that point.

I disagree with that because there are countless things that can be concluded as "UNrealistic," that work for PERPHeads.

I think that initiating a chase after having an organic roleplay interaction like a traffic stop, even if its over some minor traffic infraction, makes it okay to run from police at that point.

Yea IRL people are worried and probably wouldn't do that, but it's a game.

I think rules can get invasive when you say if someone wants to have a chase after giving a traffic stop interaction to police then they deserve a 3.4 punishment / ban.

Things like this can be perfectly handled in character with in character punishments.

Like you will eventually catch the guy and then you can choose to give him max fine max time. But In general, I feel a police role in roleplay games is a position of authority that is best used to facilitate the civilians having that choice between compliance or criminality.

 

[blobvis 2.0]

Its like the rule is in place to atleast keep some balance to the game instead of every single person on the server fleeing cops because "they felt like it". Due to the lack of possibility to punish ingame (weak ass tickets or short ass jail sentences), person wise it will be always but as in ALWAYS worth to flee.

Why have rules at all when it can be handled ingame?

why have 2.5? Its all in character and very restrictive, its natural flow of conversation that results in actions, life isnt fair and quite some crime happens because a person felt like it or as a result of an altercation.

Why not remove 3.3? After all any movement you can make is realistic, I have seen many people freestyle up and down buildings, stand on each other heads to boost up

why Have 3.9? I have seen many warranted people, hell not even warranted people shoot up cops because they just hate them. There are groups of people that just escape cops for fun. Some find it fun to hide in public places! They get punished with life sentences by a judge or die by cop suicide.

Why have 3.11? After all majority of drug operations are run in basements or attics with the tiniest and tiniest of access to hide it from the cops?


Hell remove 4.1, after all look at any police force and many and many break policy on a daily bases but get away with it because the common folk dont know, and after all if they are caught and it is recorded they get set out of their function?

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I hope you see my point here that the rules are put in place to keep some balance in the gamemode and not have every single cop constantly run around the city and create pointless shootouts just because they evaded with a car. Yes, there is some leniency when it comes to evading police and it 100% matters who you get as a pursuing officer.

You can flee if there is a beneficial and realistic reason and a proper escape path, however is it worth a 1-2k ticket resulting in a 6.5/6.9 charges with a possible penalty of 5k and 5 years? Just like a shootout, you choose when u pull a gun, not every time you should pull it and rather should put your hands up so u don't break gunpoint or die trying.

I genuinely think if u think its okay to run over a small ass ticket thus risking your freedom of imprisonment, perp is not the place for you to play, these rules have been set in stone since perp beginnings and shall be respected or u get booted trying to break them.



I think this discussion is absolutely pointless and I guess you stepped from ideas and suggestions to general discussion with your newest shit take on 2 minute thoughts.

 

[MalekIsWeird]

Its like the rule is in place to atleast keep some balance to the game instead of every single person on the server fleeing cops because "they felt like it". Due to the lack of possibility to punish ingame (weak ass tickets or short ass jail sentences), person wise it will be always but as in ALWAYS worth to flee.

Why have rules at all when it can be handled ingame?

why have 2.5? Its all in character and very restrictive, its natural flow of conversation that results in actions, life isnt fair and quite some crime happens because a person felt like it or as a result of an altercation.

Why not remove 3.3? After all any movement you can make is realistic, I have seen many people freestyle up and down buildings, stand on each other heads to boost up

why Have 3.9? I have seen many warranted people, hell not even warranted people shoot up cops because they just hate them. There are groups of people that just escape cops for fun. Some find it fun to hide in public places! They get punished with life sentences by a judge or die by cop suicide.

Why have 3.11? After all majority of drug operations are run in basements or attics with the tiniest and tiniest of access to hide it from the cops?


Hell remove 4.1, after all look at any police force and many and many break policy on a daily bases but get away with it because the common folk dont know, and after all if they are caught and it is recorded they get set out of their function?

====================

I hope you see my point here that the rules are put in place to keep some balance in the gamemode and not have every single cop constantly run around the city and create pointless shootouts just because they evaded with a car. Yes, there is some leniency when it comes to evading police and it 100% matters who you get as a pursuing officer.

You can flee if there is a beneficial and realistic reason and a proper escape path, however is it worth a 1-2k ticket resulting in a 6.5/6.9 charges with a possible penalty of 5k and 5 years? Just like a shootout, you choose when u pull a gun, not every time you should pull it and rather should put your hands up so u don't break gunpoint or die trying.

I genuinely think if u think its okay to run over a small ass ticket thus risking your freedom of imprisonment, perp is not the place for you to play, these rules have been set in stone since perp beginnings and shall be respected or u get booted trying to break them.



I think this discussion is absolutely pointless and I guess you stepped from ideas and suggestions to general discussion with your newest shit take on 2 minute thoughts.

I understand you disagree but this statement is nonsense with hardly any actual relevance. You only made a perfect example of why I am using my approach, Realistically only a small portion of your reply has any substance to it.

You made up strawman arguments after trying to paint me out in an extreme narrative (Implying Im against the rules entirely) that is obviously wrong.

You went on to imagine fake arguments in your head with weak claims and weak reasoning then disproved yourself on something totally irrelevant to anything about this thread.

Then after that, for whatever reason, you felt the need to antagonize people in general for disagreeing with said irrelevant points and saying "perp is not the place for you. you will be booted for trying to break rules," which again implies the false generalization that anyone who disagrees is totally against the existence of rules.

and finally the toxic personal note saying "discussion is pointless, i guess you stepped away to give your newest shit take."


Only this small part is of any relevance or substance:

I hope you see my point here that the rules are put in place to keep some balance in the gamemode and not have every single cop constantly run around the city and create pointless shootouts just because they evaded with a car. Yes, there is some leniency when it comes to evading police and it 100% matters who you get as a pursuing officer.

You can flee if there is a beneficial and realistic reason and a proper escape path, however is it worth a 1-2k ticket resulting in a 6.5/6.9 charges with a possible penalty of 5k and 5 years? Just like a shootout, you choose when u pull a gun, not every time you should pull it and rather should put your hands up so u don't break gunpoint or die trying.

But there is no reason for me to address it now as like I said I do not want to start turning this thread into a place full of heated arguments.

It risks the thread being deleted and is counter-intuitive for people who actually want to be mature when they give their thoughts on the matter.

 

[ExcelentAxelent]

Why have rules at all when it can be handled ingame?

why have 2.5? Its all in character and very restrictive, its natural flow of conversation that results in actions, life isnt fair and quite some crime happens because a person felt like it or as a result of an altercation.

Why not remove 3.3? After all any movement you can make is realistic, I have seen many people freestyle up and down buildings, stand on each other heads to boost up

why Have 3.9? I have seen many warranted people, hell not even warranted people shoot up cops because they just hate them. There are groups of people that just escape cops for fun. Some find it fun to hide in public places! They get punished with life sentences by a judge or die by cop suicide.

Why have 3.11? After all majority of drug operations are run in basements or attics with the tiniest and tiniest of access to hide it from the cops?


Hell remove 4.1, after all look at any police force and many and many break policy on a daily bases but get away with it because the common folk dont know, and after all if they are caught and it is recorded they get set out of their function?

I agree, All rules should be removed, this allows me to buy perp cash again with IRL money -- This is a joke for legal reasons

I agree to disagree, I think running away over charges of 3+ years is fine, for example 7.3/7.6 where you risk losing a weapon if you do stop.
With this being said the fleeing car must go above 90MPH at least to have a chance against the cops.

So my opinion, I think you should be allowed to run without it classifying as 3.4 as long as you are getting charged with a 3y+ sentence AND the vehicle you're operating goes 90MPH+.

 

[Tarone Idrin (mohammed)]

I agree, All rules should be removed, this allows me to buy perp cash again with IRL money -- This is a joke for legal reasons

I agree to disagree, I think running away over charges of 3+ years is fine, for example 7.3/7.6 where you risk losing a weapon if you do stop.
With this being said the fleeing car must go above 90MPH at least to have a chance against the cops.

So my opinion, I think you should be allowed to run without it classifying as 3.4 as long as you are getting charged with a 3y+ sentence AND the vehicle you're operating goes 90MPH+.

So being a idiot and carrying a gun for no reason means others should waste their time catching you in your 120mph bugatti cause your measly 24k means so much to u that you should be a inconvenience to others?

 

[ExcelentAxelent]

So being a idiot and carrying a gun for no reason means others should waste their time catching you in your 120mph bugatti cause your measly 24k means so much to u that you should be a inconvenience to others?

Yes

 

[MalekIsWeird]

So being a idiot and carrying a gun for no reason means others should waste their time catching you in your 120mph bugatti cause your measly 24k means so much to u that you should be a inconvenience to others?

Yes

 

[MalekIsWeird]

So being a idiot and carrying a gun for no reason means others should waste their time catching you in your 120mph bugatti cause your measly 24k means so much to u that you should be a inconvenience to others?

i think the guy who surrenders in such a winnable situation and loses 24k is the idiot.

You're risking 5k and 5 minutes of jail time when you're most likely to win and prevent the loss of 24k while on the contrary if you surrender you will have to grow drugs for 20 minutes or 40 minutes to make about 15k of that amount back,

Running there just makes perfect sense.

 

[Tarone Idrin (mohammed)]

i think the guy who surrenders in such a winnable situation and loses 24k is the idiot.

You're risking 5k and 5 minutes of jail time when you're most likely to win and prevent the loss of 24k while on the contrary if you surrender you will have to grow drugs for 20 minutes or 40 minutes to make about 15k of that amount back,

Running there just makes perfect sense.

No it's just dumb and literally cop baiting like this is coming from the same people who will cry and abuse the law while being the biggest nuisance over nothing like your just ruining others rp for such a meager thing being storing your gun also malek bro ain't u a cop main u know nun bout that za za

 

[Tarone Idrin (mohammed)]

"Ye bro being a idiot and driving around with a as50 on my back and getting my car t2 tiered cause im too lazy to store it isn't a big deal ong" like i gotta agree with blobvis your just being dumb to be dumb like fleeing over a gun charge and then abusing the clear economic advantage of it to just be a asshole and cause unnecessary chases is dumb are we gonna start causing shootouts with cops for any reason now? You risk losing drugs for any crime if ur out the base regardless and this is your fault no one else's.

 

[Caveric Jonson]

"Ye bro being a idiot and driving around with a as50 on my back and getting my car t2 tiered cause im too lazy to store it isn't a big deal ong" like i gotta agree with blobvis your just being dumb to be dumb like fleeing over a gun charge and then abusing the clear economic advantage of it to just be a asshole and cause unnecessary chases is dumb are we gonna start causing shootouts with cops for any reason now? You risk losing drugs for any crime if ur out the base regardless and this is your fault no one else's.

There is a reason im so strict now and always take guns for unlawful transport and give no 2nd chances. I don't care if your in front of your apartment or subs storage now. People like that have ruined it for everyone.

 

[Tilin]

This is the same as asking "Is serial killer RP 2.5?"
The reason why it's enforced is because everyone would do it otherwise and think their idea of "let's run this stop sign and run from them" is so unique.

As @blobvis 2.0 mentioned, there really isn't a punishment big enough to make anyone think twice before running.

I personally always wanted to allow players to run from cops for more minor things, but because nobody can keep it moderate, I don't see how it would be feasible for the PD to handle such a workload.