Motorcycles vs. Cars

[|NeX| Meta]

Hey Everyone!
I figured it would be fun to have a discussion on what vehicle design is better at speeding and for speeding.
Also, this will give us a chance to speak on the advantages and disadvantages of each.

My Personal View:
As a motorcycle and car owner all of which were built for racing, and after working on numerous motorcycles and cars over the years, I would have to say that motorcycles are much better at racing than cars.

In essence, a motorcycle and a car are the same things: vehicles with engines.
The difference is literally in the frame.
The car is much bulkier but guarded and the bike is much more light but exposed.
The only difference here is that one is built to preserve the driver at the cost of performance so I think the answer is simple.
The bike doesn't sacrifice performance at the fear of the rider.

There is also the subject of speeding on public roads as both these vehicle types are sold to the public in all of the USA from age 16.
I would have to say that the motorcycle is definitely safer to the public when the operator is speeding excessively and lets say, makes a cataclysmic mistake. As opposed to the car which would create a lot more carnage with it massive size and weight, the driver of the car has more of a chance at surviving but more of a chance of endangering and gravely injuring others in the process. The motorcycle is the more honorable choice. If you are going to put your life in danger, don't bring others down with you with your big metal bubble.

Be a man and take the responsibility yourself.

 

[Hazza the Fifty-Sixth]

 

[|NeX| Meta]

That statistic per billion miles.
You look young, so I dont blame you for not knowing how statistics work.

There are MANY more cars, pedestrians, and pedalists than there are motorcycles, EACH.
Besides, going on google and searching Motorcycle Death Rate and selecting one of the first pictures that comes up doesn't at all show that you know what you are talking about from personal experience.

 

[Deleted member 3902]

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[|NeX| Meta]

I ride, myself but i'd rather have a car.

You cant match the adrealine rush you get by riding a 150hp+ bike though, also for speeding iIwould go with a Tesla tbh the amount of instant power is actually insane.

Agreed about the feeling of a bike but I have to say that electric bikes have been around a lot longer than Mr. Elon Musk and overpriced batshitmobile. Electric bikes are also a lot less expencive and can dip, lean, and get into a lot tighter spaces.

They are also fucking dangerous because now you're on a little bike that hardly anyone can see OR HEAR.

 

[rogue]

motorbikes are good for acceleration and speed whilst mobiles are good for running over cyclists

 

[Fusions]

I know your point, it's the dumb cunt in the car that rear ends them that kills motorcyclists. Hence why i wouldn't want to ride one, if the world is full off dumb cunt drivers that kill motorcyclists then don't drive a motorcycle unless you want to take that risk. You know what can happen and its upon you to take responsibility on whether you want to risk being killed by a car.

 

[Smeris]

bikes are extremely fun and sexy, sure cars are more safe. but i think that most people who decide to drive a bike know the risks. if people want to ride a bike, who are yousomeone who powergrows drugs in a game to flame someone for that. you find more retards in cars than on bikes too. the chances are higher that you get injured yes, but you can die at any moment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ even in the safest car in the worldvolvo

 

[|NeX| Meta]

Cars = great, only able to get fucked by trucks.
Motorcycle = suicidecycle.

A car without a seatbelt will always be more dangerous than a motorcycle and since there are so many cars on the road there are plenty of examples of people killing themselves in them, with their seatbealt, and no other vehicles involved or even around at the time to call it in.

 

[John Daymon]

My brother drove a bike, he quit after his friend crashed and died, Sure they are cheap but the chance of dying is waaaay to high, I stick to fast cars, more fun and have a better sound imo.

In racing - F1 better than MotoGP

 

[|NeX| Meta]

I know your point, it's the dumb cunt in the car that rear ends them that kills motorcyclists. Hence why i wouldn't want to ride one, if the world is full off dumb cunt drivers that kill motorcyclists then don't drive a motorcycle unless you want to take that risk. You know what can happen and its upon you to take responsibility on whether you want to risk being killed by a car.

Because you just don't get it.
Its all worth it. Bikes are more than just run and speed.
You wont even understand as long as you sit in your close minded ways, telling someone why they should do something that you know literally NOTHING about.

 

[Fusions]

A car without a seatbelt will always be more dangerous than a motorcycle and since there are so many cars on the road there are plenty of examples of people killing themselves in them, with their seatbealt, and no other vehicles involved or even around at the time to call it in.

The seatbelt is purely to stop you either 1) going through the windscreen 2) smacking your head on the dashboard
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Because you just don't get it.
Its all worth it. Bikes are more than just run and speed.
You wont even understand as long as you sit in your close minded ways, telling someone why they should do something that you know literally NOTHING about.

When did i tell you to do something? i stated if you wan't to take that risk take that risk. Why are you starting to get all offended because people have different opinions?

You are correct i don't get it, because i choose not to get it. A person i know was going down the motorway on his motorbike and hit a brick and ended up going face first into concrete. Whereas, in cars the brick wouldn't do anything to it.

 

[|NeX| Meta]

My brother drove a bike, he quit after his friend crashed and died, Sure they are cheap but the chance of dying is waaaay to high, I stick to fast cars, more fun and have a better sound imo.

In racing - F1 better than MotoGP

This is what I'm talking about.
Thisdude has never mentioned sitting his ass on a motorcycle seat once, let alone enough to get anywhere near good at it.
Yet because his friends, friend, died on one, he knows everything there is to know about them.

What you don't know is what you are missing. We all die one day.
It can happen spontaneously on a motorcycle to a completely fit man or it can happen to a deteriorating body that sits on the computer all day and plays gmod. It always happens eventually and it is the only thing you were ever guaranteed in life.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

In a controlled environment such as a race track/field or whatever then speeding is no issue.

However I've seen numerous times when I used to live by Luton of Motorcycle drivers speeding down country lanes and causing accidents.

I don't give a crap if you speed, crash and die. What I care about is the poor sods you either hit, causing them either A: Trauma from watching a twat get squished off his bike, or B: Causing themselves to die/put themselves at risk for having to swerve out.

You wana drive fast? Cool. Just don't put others lives at risk because the vibrations and wind makes your never region feel funny.

A vehicle is only as safe as the person controlling it.

 

[Imperial Watch]

reading this thread and seeing this guy arguing that motorcycles are safer than cars

 

[M]

You look young, so I dont blame you for not knowing how statistics work.

There are MANY more cars, pedestrians, and pedalists than there are motorcycles, EACH.

>data is 'miles covered'
>nothing to do with the relative abundances of these strata
>you are actually the one without a firm grasp of the statistics given

 

[John Daymon]

This is what I'm talking about.
Thisdude has never mentioned sitting his ass on a motorcycle seat once, let alone enough to get anywhere near good at it.
Yet because his friends, friend, died on one, he knows everything there is to know about them.

What you don't know is what you are missing. We all die one day.
It can happen spontaneously on a motorcycle to a completely fit man or it can happen to a deteriorating body that sits on the computer all day and plays gmod. It always happens eventually and it is the only thing you were ever guaranteed in life.

I've driven one myself several times, I dont enjoy it nor do i want to risk My life that way, a bump in the road with a bike at 300 kph and ur dead, in a car - not ded nothing happens.

I dont sit play gmod all day, I drive My cars most of the time when I'm not on perp

 

[|NeX| Meta]

In a controlled environment such as a race track/field or whatever then speeding is no issue.

However I've seen numerous times when I used to live by Luton of Motorcycle drivers speeding down country lanes and causing accidents.

I don't give a crap if you speed, crash and die. What I care about is the poor sods you either hit, causing them either A: Trauma from watching a twat get squished off his bike, or B: Causing themselves to die/put themselves at risk for having to swerve out.

You wana drive fast? Cool. Just don't put others lives at risk because the vibrations and wind makes your never region feel funny.

A vehicle is only as safe as the person controlling it.

This is it and this was my point in my post which it seems a lot of people didnt read.
The man speeding in the car is a coward.
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I've driven one myself several times, I dont enjoy it nor do i want to risk My life that way, a bump in the road with a bike at 300 kph and ur dead, in a car - not ded nothing happens.

I dont sit play gmod all day, I drive My cars most of the time when I'm not on perp

Its not about you.
If you wanna speed on the road so bad then do it on a bike where you aren't saving your own skin at the expense of other skin.

 

[John Daymon]

This is it and this was my point in my post which it seems a lot of people didnt read.
The man speeding in the car is a coward.

How can Someone driving a car be a coward? I've driven a car in 297 kph at Max and sat in a car going over 300, I'm telling you, My balls have never been higher up in My throat than that, its fucking disgusting.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

This is it and this was my point in my post which it seems a lot of people didnt read.
The man speeding in the car is a coward.
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Its not about you.
If you wanna speed on the road so bad then do it on a bike where you aren't saving your own skin at the expense of other skin.

Unless you got a passenger who is dying and you're taking them to hospital or something, there is literally no excuse for speeding what so ever.