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Hello. My name is Jorge Guadalupe. I play this server some times with my friends. One thing i notice is that people dont like to role play on this server and instead it becomes cops vs robbers. I think this is less fun than when you role play. I think that role play should be the main thing of this game. How should there be more role play on this server?JG.png
 
roleplayer does a very minor thing that would 100% happen IRL = 1 week ban
raiders mass mugging new players and do the most unrealistic movement ever during raids = nothing.

thats just the TRUTH
ROLEPLAY IS DYING
Call me a ragebaiter and dont counter my points.
 
from experience unless the roleplayers lose against police or get all arrested doing some crazy fun RP scenarios they dont get banned
but if they win against police in a shootout or avoid arrest they all get banned.

the fun part of using pistols is that you dont just destroy police instantly like zergers with their coward snipers and aks
i think police really likes fighting against will docker, greggory skittle and brian heros team cuz we never use rifles and lose most of the time but the second we win at least one of us gets banned.....
 
As much as I love this server and have loved since 2016, sadly yeah the situation is that people somehow get addicited to watching virtual money grow in the bank account by growing 24/7, then they get bored because that's all they do, but instead of hopping on battlefield, they decide to have epic shootouts in source engine with 200 ping and talk shit in chat.

Everytime I leave the server for a year and come back, there's a new powerhouse organization fully dominating the fun factor for both the criminal, police and passive roleplayers.
Passive roleplayer fishing in muggable area? get fucked.
Passive roleplayer in apartment? get raided 10 times and have the raiders be visibly dissapointed you didn't have fully grown drugs for them.
Play as cop? enjoy being wiped every 5 minutes because the said org is on and they're off growing hours, having constant shootouts.
Criminal? Unless you have unemployed.com org, enjoy losing to zerg with $100 Million total net worth that came to steal your $20k worth of drugs.
 
As much as I love this server and have loved since 2016, sadly yeah the situation is that people somehow get addicited to watching virtual money grow in the bank account by growing 24/7, then they get bored because that's all they do, but instead of hopping on battlefield, they decide to have epic shootouts in source engine with 200 ping and talk shit in chat.

Everytime I leave the server for a year and come back, there's a new powerhouse organization fully dominating the fun factor for both the criminal, police and passive roleplayers.
Passive roleplayer fishing in muggable area? get fucked.
Passive roleplayer in apartment? get raided 10 times and have the raiders be visibly dissapointed you didn't have fully grown drugs for them.
Play as cop? enjoy being wiped every 5 minutes because the said org is on and they're off growing hours, having constant shootouts.
Criminal? Unless you have unemployed.com org, enjoy losing to zerg with $100 Million total net worth that came to steal your $20k worth of drugs.

i was a fishing main in v5 for some time mostly fished at hicktown as it was the quickest way to store your fish and pretty cool for roleplay purposes and i've been mugged every 10-20 minutes i just stopped carrying anything on me and im scared to think what happens nowadays in hicktown now that all the zergs sit in the bunker and go out in groups of 4-8 people in different cars to mug on sight everyone

everytime i go into a forest unless i speed through it there is a zerg car following me and trying their hardest to make me stop my car imagine what a new player in a mini cooper has to go through as hicktown is literally one of the few places they can afford
 
As much as I love this server and have loved since 2016, sadly yeah the situation is that people somehow get addicited to watching virtual money grow in the bank account by growing 24/7, then they get bored because that's all they do, but instead of hopping on battlefield, they decide to have epic shootouts in source engine with 200 ping and talk shit in chat.

Everytime I leave the server for a year and come back, there's a new powerhouse organization fully dominating the fun factor for both the criminal, police and passive roleplayers.
Passive roleplayer fishing in muggable area? get fucked.
Passive roleplayer in apartment? get raided 10 times and have the raiders be visibly dissapointed you didn't have fully grown drugs for them.
Play as cop? enjoy being wiped every 5 minutes because the said org is on and they're off growing hours, having constant shootouts.
Criminal? Unless you have unemployed.com org, enjoy losing to zerg with $100 Million total net worth that came to steal your $20k worth of drugs.
Thats underestimation, most of these også has wayyyy more than 100 mil in net worth cause they are about 20 people
 
How many of these threads are made throughout the years

Pretty much a copy paste of this and this is from 11 years ago.
 
to make it even worse, half the staff team is in said zerg orgs
I wasn’t even going to respond to this, but you’ve managed to shit talk staff almost as much as you do dumb stuff on the server:

Collier - Officegang ( Usually plays more cop RP )
A1L - Last seen in caretakers, a crafting org ( Chief of PLPD so perhaps also plays cop I don’t know just a guess :D )
Aquaa - Narcos ( Org hasn’t been active since the beginning of v6 )
Oddy - Hoodrats ( Only person from the current admin team who is in a top 2+ org, fairly sure he plays more cop anyways )
Scoot - Mainly does passive stuff
ellie - Does mostly staff stuff on the server nowadays
Megasaw - Officegang, does mostly staff stuff and PD currently
Mini - Mostly staff related stuff as well
Chase - Narcos, does mostly staff stuff
Tilin - PD main
Marine Putin - Narcos
Bnje - Not sure if Benji is in an org rn, but does mainly staff stuff or pd stuff as well
Creepis - MiP, plays more PD and FD than crim usually
Galle - Paralake Ballas, also plays a lot more PD
Scrabuz - Normally plays PD or is doing staff related stuff
Wescott - Hoodrats, usually plays more PD
Matthew - Paralake Ballas
Medium - MiP ( Only staff member so far that would fit your criteria )
curak - Plays mostly PD
exrobite - Normally plays PD or minge simulator
HuskyDOG - Normally plays PD or staff related stuff
Lhealey - Hoodrats, normally plays PD
Daan - Normally does Crim or civ stuff along with staff related, not in any top 10 orgs
mocho - Caretakers? Usually does more passive stuff or crim
phoondos - Narcos ( Usually bases and does staff related stuff )
SadBoy - Paralake Ballas? ( Usually does more PD stuff afaik )
Sean - Hoodrats ( Might fit in your criteria ig although he also plays PD )
sidd - Hoodrats ( Plays a fair share of both PD and crim ) Might also fit in your criteria
sza - MiP ( Plays a lot of both PD and crim ) Might fit your criteria
Vollgas - Plays mostly PD
monk - I’m sorry my dear kitten I have forgotten you ( Washed crim resorted to playing PD as of late )

So, out of 30 staff members presented to you, only 4 actually do a lot of crim stuff in one of the top 3 orgs. Out of these 30, 10 are members of top 10 orgs not including Narcos as the org has been inactive for a bit of time now.
I could also include the Dev and Helper team but it would only lessen your argument even more.

Whenever you’re ready to explain how the 4 staff members that are mostly active in these Zerg orgs affect your role play lmk. Perhaps if you look at your ban history you’d understand how not having an understanding of the rules might be more of an issue.
 
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I wasn’t even going to respond to this, but you’ve managed to shit talk staff almost as much as you do dumb stuff on the server:

Collier - Officegang ( Usually plays more cop RP )
A1L - Last seen in caretakers, a crafting org ( Chief of PLPD so perhaps also plays cop I don’t know just a guess :D )
Aquaa - Narcos ( Org hasn’t been active since the beginning of v6 )
Oddy - Hoodrats ( Only person from the current admin team who is in a top 2+ org, fairly sure he plays more cop anyways )
Scoot - Mainly does passive stuff
ellie - Does mostly staff stuff on the server nowadays
Megasaw - Officegang, does mostly staff stuff and PD currently
Mini - Mostly staff related stuff as well
Chase - Narcos, does mostly staff stuff
Tilin - PD main
Marine Putin - Narcos
Bnje - Not sure if Benji is in an org rn, but does mainly staff stuff or pd stuff as well
Creepis - MiP, plays more PD and FD than crim usually
Galle - Paralake Ballas, also plays a lot more PD
Scrabuz - Normally plays PD or is doing staff related stuff
Wescott - Hoodrats, usually plays more PD
Matthew - Paralake Ballas
Medium - MiP ( Only staff member so far that would fit your criteria )
curak - Plays mostly PD
exrobite - Normally plays PD or minge simulator
HuskyDOG - Normally plays PD or staff related stuff
Lhealey - Hoodrats, normally plays PD
Daan - Normally does Crim or civ stuff along with staff related, not in any top 10 orgs
mocho - Caretakers? Usually does more passive stuff or crim
phoondos - Narcos ( Usually bases and does staff related stuff )
SadBoy - Paralake Ballas? ( Usually does more PD stuff afaik )
Sean - Hoodrats ( Might fit in your criteria ig although he also plays PD )
sidd - Hoodrats ( Plays a far share of both PD and crim ) Might also fit in your criteria
sza - MiP ( Plays a lot of both PD and crim ) Might fit your criteria
Vollgas - Plays mostly PD

So, out of 29 staff members presented to you, only 4 actually do a lot of crim stuff in one of the top 3 orgs. Out of these 29, 10 are members of top 10 orgs not including Narcos as the org has been inactive for a bit of time now.
I could also include the Dev and Helper team but it would only lessen your argument even more.

Whenever you’re ready to explain how the 4 staff members that are mostly active in these Zerg orgs affect your role play lmk. Perhaps if you look at your ban history you’d understand how not having an understanding of the rules might be more of an issue.
This is funny and true, the issue people have is staff BEING in the org, not that they actively do crime stuff just the fact they are in the org, because in people's opinion staff is not allowed to play anything, MAYBE besides PD because there's no point in having any advantage there, and believe keep believing most staff UV bases etc.
 
I wasn’t even going to respond to this, but you’ve managed to shit talk staff almost as much as you do dumb stuff on the server:

Collier - Officegang ( Usually plays more cop RP )
A1L - Last seen in caretakers, a crafting org ( Chief of PLPD so perhaps also plays cop I don’t know just a guess :D )
Aquaa - Narcos ( Org hasn’t been active since the beginning of v6 )
Oddy - Hoodrats ( Only person from the current admin team who is in a top 2+ org, fairly sure he plays more cop anyways )
Scoot - Mainly does passive stuff
ellie - Does mostly staff stuff on the server nowadays
Megasaw - Officegang, does mostly staff stuff and PD currently
Mini - Mostly staff related stuff as well
Chase - Narcos, does mostly staff stuff
Tilin - PD main
Marine Putin - Narcos
Bnje - Not sure if Benji is in an org rn, but does mainly staff stuff or pd stuff as well
Creepis - MiP, plays more PD and FD than crim usually
Galle - Paralake Ballas, also plays a lot more PD
Scrabuz - Normally plays PD or is doing staff related stuff
Wescott - Hoodrats, usually plays more PD
Matthew - Paralake Ballas
Medium - MiP ( Only staff member so far that would fit your criteria )
curak - Plays mostly PD
exrobite - Normally plays PD or minge simulator
HuskyDOG - Normally plays PD or staff related stuff
Lhealey - Hoodrats, normally plays PD
Daan - Normally does Crim or civ stuff along with staff related, not in any top 10 orgs
mocho - Caretakers? Usually does more passive stuff or crim
phoondos - Narcos ( Usually bases and does staff related stuff )
SadBoy - Paralake Ballas? ( Usually does more PD stuff afaik )
Sean - Hoodrats ( Might fit in your criteria ig although he also plays PD )
sidd - Hoodrats ( Plays a far share of both PD and crim ) Might also fit in your criteria
sza - MiP ( Plays a lot of both PD and crim ) Might fit your criteria
Vollgas - Plays mostly PD

So, out of 29 staff members presented to you, only 4 actually do a lot of crim stuff in one of the top 3 orgs. Out of these 29, 10 are members of top 10 orgs not including Narcos as the org has been inactive for a bit of time now.
I could also include the Dev and Helper team but it would only lessen your argument even more.

Whenever you’re ready to explain how the 4 staff members that are mostly active in these Zerg orgs affect your role play lmk. Perhaps if you look at your ban history you’d understand how not having an understanding of the rules might be more of an issue.
A1L and I are zergs when we raid because we're so big and full from all the mcdonalds ^w^
 
Hello. My name is Jorge Guadalupe. I play this server some times with my friends. One thing i notice is that people dont like to role play on this server and instead it becomes cops vs robbers. I think this is less fun than when you role play. I think that role play should be the main thing of this game. How should there be more role play on this server?
I enjoyed reading this thread because it's true for the most part

To have a server with the roleplay you imagine, you'd need to have a lot more restrictive rules than there are now. Personally I just don't think that would work out. I mean just imagine how much time is/was spent already on enforcing rules. On top of that you would have to remove certain elements off the game that would kill the appeal for a lot of players

And about zergs, they make sense when you look at it from the players side. Doing practically any criminal activity by yourself or even in a small group that doesn't involve camping muggable areas is impossible to do without getting swarmed by cops. You used to be able to do a decent amount of stuff by yourself but it changed idk when or how. Zergs could've easily been nerfed to the ground already but they haven't, that alone should give away the why. We as players can't do anything about them though they're already frowned upon by the devs/owners

But like said before, some people are going to play the game as a powergrinding simulator, some purely for roleplay. You can't control how someone is going to play the game unless you get rid of them. Instead of constantly policing RP and pointing fingers to one party, I think the focus should be on changing the gamemode in a way where it doesn't require the heavy rules and where there's room for the roleplayers and pvpers, which is easier said than done but in my opinion that's the best way to tackle the things mentioned.
^(ts is never happening ✌️)

In short the way I like to put it: This is not real life and you can guarantee people aren't going to act like it is
 
I wasn’t even going to respond to this, but you’ve managed to shit talk staff almost as much as you do dumb stuff on the server:

Collier - Officegang ( Usually plays more cop RP )
A1L - Last seen in caretakers, a crafting org ( Chief of PLPD so perhaps also plays cop I don’t know just a guess :D )
Aquaa - Narcos ( Org hasn’t been active since the beginning of v6 )
Oddy - Hoodrats ( Only person from the current admin team who is in a top 2+ org, fairly sure he plays more cop anyways )
Scoot - Mainly does passive stuff
ellie - Does mostly staff stuff on the server nowadays
Megasaw - Officegang, does mostly staff stuff and PD currently
Mini - Mostly staff related stuff as well
Chase - Narcos, does mostly staff stuff
Tilin - PD main
Marine Putin - Narcos
Bnje - Not sure if Benji is in an org rn, but does mainly staff stuff or pd stuff as well
Creepis - MiP, plays more PD and FD than crim usually
Galle - Paralake Ballas, also plays a lot more PD
Scrabuz - Normally plays PD or is doing staff related stuff
Wescott - Hoodrats, usually plays more PD
Matthew - Paralake Ballas
Medium - MiP ( Only staff member so far that would fit your criteria )
curak - Plays mostly PD
exrobite - Normally plays PD or minge simulator
HuskyDOG - Normally plays PD or staff related stuff
Lhealey - Hoodrats, normally plays PD
Daan - Normally does Crim or civ stuff along with staff related, not in any top 10 orgs
mocho - Caretakers? Usually does more passive stuff or crim
phoondos - Narcos ( Usually bases and does staff related stuff )
SadBoy - Paralake Ballas? ( Usually does more PD stuff afaik )
Sean - Hoodrats ( Might fit in your criteria ig although he also plays PD )
sidd - Hoodrats ( Plays a fair share of both PD and crim ) Might also fit in your criteria
sza - MiP ( Plays a lot of both PD and crim ) Might fit your criteria
Vollgas - Plays mostly PD
monk - I’m sorry my dear kitten I have forgotten you ( Washed crim resorted to playing PD as of late )

So, out of 30 staff members presented to you, only 4 actually do a lot of crim stuff in one of the top 3 orgs. Out of these 30, 10 are members of top 10 orgs not including Narcos as the org has been inactive for a bit of time now.
I could also include the Dev and Helper team but it would only lessen your argument even more.

Whenever you’re ready to explain how the 4 staff members that are mostly active in these Zerg orgs affect your role play lmk. Perhaps if you look at your ban history you’d understand how not having an understanding of the rules might be more of an issue.
i aint reading allat
 
On a serious note though, the environment of the server is dependent on the majority of players; and unfortunately to some eyes majority of the people playing the server tend to lean towards Cops vs Robbers or mainly PVP, there's a growing number of people who are trying to lean into roleplaying though.

I think one of the main issues though is when RP mains interact with PVP mains and vice versa, there's always going to be a disconnect no matter what, either people think roleplaying is cringe, boring, etc, and some will think that PVPing is cringe, boring, etc, the server isn't perfect nor are the people who play it, there will always be someone around to have roleplay interactions with, but they're hard to find when a large part of the playerbase doesn't want or care to roleplay. :pompus:
 
I think the changes with Bazaar in 6.1 and emphasis on law 5.1 will push towards an active Bazaar. Back in v4/v5(?) Bazaar was both a social hub and a place to find proper RP. It depends how major of a RP situation you want to see, but even last night I saw someone (sorry I didn’t see your name so I can’t give credit) construct a “gentleman’s club”. Which may have led to fun social interactions (I didn’t linger sadly to witness).

Tl;dr if you want RP create it, if you want inspiration goto bazaar and usually atleast one shop will be initiating something.
 
Good roleplay starts with you!

That is one of the first things I heard when I joined my first RP server back in 2013, it was even played on Gm_Construct of all places! Back then cops had to build their own prisons and PD, Gun sellers their own shops etc. I think what has died out a little over the years is the creativity, with these well made maps you don't really need to build anything and creativity sort of dies out.

And to say there is no possibility to Roleplay is just not true at all. We have the Television and Image Board systems, what more do we need? With these two things alone the opportunities are almost endless. I think people just need to giddy up and get started.

Yeah it would be nice to have staff be a little more active with creating RP but they have a life as well and Moderation work is busy work! I think what we mortals could start with is filling up some of all those empty Billboards around the place, not only would it bring some life to the server but also a good way to train those Microsoft Paint skillz!

All the pieces are here right now to create good RP situations, people just need to get out of their shell/Comfort zone and jump to it!
 
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