[Suggestion] Change to Forum Rule 2.4

[KeiwaM]

What rule do you wish to Edit/Add: Forum Rule 2.4 Constructive Supports

Your version of the rule:

Users should only reply to the threads within the Ban Appeal, Warning Dispute, Refund Request and Action Request section if they were directly involved in the situation in question or is contributing with constructive information relevant to the post. When replying to Suggestions and Staff Applications users are expected to be constructive with their replies by providing their reasoning.

Why do you believe this rule should be Added/Edited:

Currently if a person is forgetting to add evidence or posts an appeal as the wrong category, you are not allowed to comment it to them and have to take it to profile, conversation or steam. I don't get why you wouldn't be allowed to simply post one comment saying "you need valid evidence" or "demo doesn't work".

 

[Rhys :)]

I told someone the difference between a dispute and an apology and got a warning. I would like to see this changed.

 

[rat]

There is of course the very reasonable person that would suggest that it is the staff member's job to inform users on how to format and submit their application.

The very reasonable person would then say that allowing any old user to do it would not have any tangible benefit whatsoever when a staff member could do the same.

 

[Imperial Watch]

There is of course the very reasonable person that would suggest that it is the staff member's job to inform users on how to format and submit their application.

The very reasonable person would then say that allowing any old user to do it would not have any tangible benefit whatsoever when a staff member could do the same.

The very reasonable staff member would then be able to see that because a regular user was able to inform the poster on any errors they could possibly have made be it format or similar things, that it would save them the time and hassle of having to do it themselves and could in some cases shorten the time it would take for a staff member to deal with an AR or a post of that nature.

On the other hand, no one likes backseat moderators, so I can see, and understand, that regardless of whether or not they are right, administrative threads like AR's or disputes should be dealt with by staff members, and staff members only

 

[M]

they (formerly we) don't give a fuck about what you think and it won't affect anyone's decision because they need to review the case objectively anyway, no matter how much some cuck has analysed it.

they (formerly we) don't want skids backseat moderating, it gets fucking boring when you see 'needs evidence' by 3 different kids on the same thread

 

[KeiwaM]

they (formerly we) don't want skids backseat moderating, it gets fucking boring when you see 'needs evidence' by 3 different kids on the same thread

So is it not better that someone told the person that they need evidence and they provide it to the admin to review at the moment instead of the admin having to write "provide evidence, you have 24 hours" and completely overlook the post for another 24 hours? Seems like you are just trying to delay the process.

Lets put it this way:

Person forgets evidence > Active people comments the issue > Person sees it and uploads evidence

OR

Person forgets evidence > Noone tells him > Admin posts after 5 hours that he needs evidence > Person sees it and uploads evidence > Staff member takes at least another 5 hours to respond to it.

It's not backseat moderating. It's literally called "helping another person"

 

[M]

So is it not better that someone told the person that they need evidence and they provide it to the admin to review at the moment instead of the admin having to write "provide evidence, you have 24 hours" and completely overlook the post for another 24 hours? Seems like you are just trying to delay the process.

Lets put it this way:

Person forgets evidence > Active people comments the issue > Person sees it and uploads evidence

OR

Person forgets evidence > Noone tells him > Admin posts after 5 hours that he needs evidence > Person sees it and uploads evidence > Staff member takes at least another 5 hours to respond to it.

It's not backseat moderating. It's literally called "helping another person"

OR person does it right in the first place because they should use their fucking eyes

 

[MrLewis]

Denied