Model Suggestion ACOG With top mounted red dot.

[Bnjemann]

Suggestion Title: ACOG With top mounted red dot.
Suggestion Description: Add an ACOG scope variation, craft-able using an ACOG, a pistol sight, and 1 refined metal 50% pure that can be crafted in order to create a highly versatile, expensive and relatively screen obstructive sight for rifles and large SMGs.



The ACOG sight currently has a fairly great coverage in terms of range at the downside of the iron sights atop the scope being a bit lacklustre. This option, which would cost significantly more than an ACOG alone, this would grant users with a sight with the following pros and cons:
- Good all range coverage.
- Close range sight compromise is rendered more effective.
- Screen coverage is more obstructive due to the sight used.
- Price goes up exponentially making its use pretty much increase the cost of the gun and losing it.

If I recall correctly @Collier at one point showed off a model for an ACOG that put a pistol reflex atop of it. I think the Eotech compact would look the best, the microdot is a realistically used choice more often however. In real life, the most common sights I’ve seen mounted atop an ACOG is the Trijicon RMR or clones of it, the microdot sight comes in at a close second however and comes with the added benefit of already being in the game.

Why should this be added?:
- A highly versatile sight that’s expensive and has its downsides too.
- “Fixes” issues with ACOG irons people don’t like.
- A modern trend, could bring PERP guns further into the current era, as this would apply a more modern aesthetic to the guns we have, which are all relatively aged models.

What negatives could this have?:
- modelling work needed.
- Price bracket being high for balancing reasons might dissuade users interests.
- Could turn certain firearms significantly more effective and bring in issues of balance.

What problem would this suggestion solve?: Bringing in another gunsight with its pros and cons, which fixes cons with the ACOG in exchange for coming with its own set of problems for balancing issues.

 

[Fern]

Suggestion Title: ACOG With top mounted red dot.
Suggestion Description: Add an ACOG scope variation, craft-able using an ACOG, a pistol sight, and 1 refined metal 50% pure that can be crafted in order to create a highly versatile, expensive and relatively screen obstructive sight for rifles and large SMGs.

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The ACOG sight currently has a fairly great coverage in terms of range at the downside of the iron sights atop the scope being a bit lacklustre. This option, which would cost significantly more than an ACOG alone, this would grant users with a sight with the following pros and cons:
- Good all range coverage.
- Close range sight compromise is rendered more effective.
- Screen coverage is more obstructive due to the sight used.
- Price goes up exponentially making its use pretty much increase the cost of the gun and losing it.

If I recall correctly @Collier at one point showed off a model for an ACOG that put a pistol reflex atop of it. I think the Eotech compact would look the best, the microdot is a realistically used choice more often however. In real life, the most common sights I’ve seen mounted atop an ACOG is the Trijicon RMR or clones of it, the microdot sight comes in at a close second however and comes with the added benefit of already being in the game.

Why should this be added?:
- A highly versatile sight that’s expensive and has its downsides too.
- “Fixes” issues with ACOG irons people don’t like.
- A modern trend, could bring PERP guns further into the current era, as this would apply a more modern aesthetic to the guns we have, which are all relatively aged models.

What negatives could this have?:
- modelling work needed.
- Price bracket being high for balancing reasons might dissuade users interests.
- Could turn certain firearms significantly more effective and bring in issues of balance.

What problem would this suggestion solve?: Bringing in another gunsight with its pros and cons, which fixes cons with the ACOG in exchange for coming with its own set of problems for balancing issues.

I like this idea but also the only current downsides of acog are the iron sight and the cost. So removing the whole iron sight would make the only disadvantage the cost. I like the idea but realistically with balancing I don’t see it working well.

 

[Akeno Himejima]

If the iron sight were to be reworked, this would become obsolete. I get you want to modernise it but it heavily buffs people with good aim.
If the iron sight was to be like the scar or as50's one, a lot of the problems would be solved.

 

[Sharkster]

This has both advantages are disadvantages
having a better change of sight when you dont have time to take off ur acog and put on a red dot or you cant see shit with the acog ironsight

the disadvantages is that it takes more screen space which is harder to see surroundings i think this would be pretty balanced

 

[Fern]

This has both advantages are disadvantages
having a better change of sight when you dont have time to take off ur acog and put on a red dot or you cant see shit with the acog ironsight

the disadvantages is that it takes more screen space which is harder to see surroundings i think this would be pretty balanced

I understand what you’re saying with the fact it takes up more screen space but I think saving like 3 seconds to swap sights and losing a bit of screen space is not an even trade.
Furthermore this might just be my opinion but considering both TFU and seasoned players will have access to and be easily able to afford this new best sight in the game it will only negatively affect new players who cannot afford it.

I think it needs at least some type of a further nerf.

 

[Sharkster]

I understand what you’re saying with the fact it takes up more screen space but I think saving like 3 seconds to swap sights and losing a bit of screen space is not an even trade.
Furthermore this might just be me but considering both TFU and seasoned players will have access to and be easily able to afford this new best sight in the game it will only negatively affect new players who cannot afford it.

I think it needs at least some type of a further nerf.

sights are like 5k-6k which you can make in less than 4 minutes lol either way new players arent gonna know about these sights or use guns that are available to these sights , new players has good options that has good ironsights like mp5k ,scar m4 and any ironsights that is visible

 

[Bnjemann]

I understand what you’re saying with the fact it takes up more screen space but I think saving like 3 seconds to swap sights and losing a bit of screen space is not an even trade.
Furthermore this might just be my opinion but considering both TFU and seasoned players will have access to and be easily able to afford this new best sight in the game it will only negatively affect new players who cannot afford it.

I think it needs at least some type of a further nerf.

I never said Tactical Firearms Officers would have access to this version of the ACOG sight. As it stands I wouldn’t deem such an addition necessary, but whilst I am consulted on most TFU additions and subtractions by developers, I probably wouldn’t see a reason for this to exist in TFU, as few use the ACOG as is due to most engagements TFU do are possible with the rifle red dot sight.