Claimed Action Request (Fat Man Ian)

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Your Steam Name: 213
Your Roleplay Name: Christina Jones
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:19662238

Player's Steam Name: Fat Man Ian
Player's Roleplay Name: Jake Rizer
Player's SteamID: STEAM_0:0:147667689

Why should this player be punished?: 3.4, 3.18 - The player shot through his window with an FN SCAR at the Lakeview Motel for no good reason, then immediately stored the weapon when an officer arrived on the scene. He then failed to comply when ordered to take the weapon out of storage, resulting in a jail sentence.

Evidence Link: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/nIm6Y7D1H13_4y-eC?invite=cr-MSxMR3ksODE2NDIxNjQw

 

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Refusing to give up the SCAR:

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I understand that I could have used “/me” to retrieve the weapon, but I had something to take care of IRL and didn’t want to prolong the situation as it was clear that the player and his friends were looking to troll.

 

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@the_fat_man_ian please explain your actions, you have 72 hours to do so.

 

[the_fat_man_ian]

never requested a /me for gun shot res and ect im sorry you had irl stuff to do but thats not a excuse to not rp? that's all you had to do. also the gun was never stored we had hotel 2 and hotel 4 i had 2 i believe adam had 4 i dropped it in there bro, also staff i dont have a notification for this action request, it may be a website bug also no email like usual <3 the player had to let me know in game that i had a action request witch was nice of him thank you Christina

 

[the_fat_man_ian]

and i refute the looking to troll thing you said, i was literately just crafting in my base for hours all i did was shoot at a guy for stealing my car dude and i repeated that to ya like 4-5 times i robbed 1 dude that day and crafted, was my whole day on perp. im literately one of the most active dudes on here i do not minge or troll dude i was just tryna stop a dude from stealing my car

 

[the_fat_man_ian]

i think your really miss understanding valuing my freedom for trolling if your requested a /me i LITERATLLY CANT LIE DAWG XD all love g

 

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never requested a /me for gun shot res and ect

You claim you never stored your weapon. If that's true and the gun was hidden in another room, using "/me" wouldn't have helped me retrieve it. I would've taken you to your storage and said "/me retrieves recently fired SCAR from storage box," to which you would've likely responded, "no recently fired SCAR in storage." Since I don't have the ability to breach, that would've further justified taking you straight to jail rather than wasting time going back and forth, especially given your toxic attitude.

im sorry you had irl stuff to do but thats not a excuse to not rp?

Did I stop roleplaying at any point?

i robbed 1 dude that day and crafted, was my whole day on perp. im literately one of the most active dudes on here i do not minge or troll

Redundant.

all i did was shoot at a guy for stealing my car dude and i repeated that to ya like 4-5 times

The car you claimed was being stolen was nowhere near the parking lot, and no car alarm sounded. I arrived, announced my presence, and you continued shooting at nothing. Can you provide a clip supporting your claim that you were defending against a car theft?

i think your really miss understanding valuing my freedom for trolling

If you were genuinely defending your property, why refuse to comply with an officer's orders and hide your weapon? How does turning a property defense situation into a jail sentence show that you value your freedom?

 

[the_fat_man_ian]

my only clip from Monday pertaining to you other than a separate report i made is a clip of you raiding Cop me 30 min before you came in during the ticket above

if you think these are the actions of someone genuinely tryna shit on your rp experience ur tripping bro,

and this is us IN HOTEL 4 WITH ADAM like i said,

respectfully bro just use /me like every other cop on the server when gathering evidence,

and no you did not stop roleplaying but is it my fault you didn't use the tools you are supposed to use like /me? every cop /me's me for everything why is it my fault you didn't just do your job?

I'm really not tryna be a asshole to you dude but you won i went to jail i paid the ticket and you didn't even really have valid evidence being you didn't do the bare minimum to to gather any evidence against me. ------ i understand this is a IA issue and not staff

respectfully i dont think any of my actions reflect ban worthy punishments as its not my fault you only asked a criminal questions instead of gathering evidence like every other officer on the server via /me or by saying "yo im swabbing your hands for gun shot residue what did i find" or "I'm checking you, your car, and your storage for a hot gun" - it was in 4 not storage this is just an example

I rp and as criminal, criminals lie, Did i lie in a /me Instance Or A Direct Evidence gathering method where I'm not allowed to lie,
Absolutely not, thats parallel with cheating.

 

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if you think these are the actions of someone genuinely tryna shit on your rp experience ur tripping bro,

That clip is irrelevant to this situation. If you believe I or any other officer violated policy, you can file an IA.

is it my fault you didn't use the tools you are supposed to use like /me? every cop /me's me for everything why is it my fault you didn't just do your job?

I had more than enough evidence to arrest you without needing to use /me or retrieve the weapon used in the crime. Whether I used /me or not, you still broke the laws and were arrested accordingly. If you believe I failed to conduct a proper investigation, file an IA.

Did i lie in a /me Instance Or A Direct Evidence gathering method where I'm not allowed to lie

Where in the report have I accused you of lying in a /me?

I rp and as criminal, criminals lie

During the RP situation and in this AR, you claimed you were shooting at someone stealing your vehicle. Now, you're contradicting yourself by arguing that criminals are allowed to lie in RP. Which is it?

In case I haven't been clear enough, please explain why you shot through your window and continued shooting after an officer arrived on scene. If this was genuinely a self-defense situation, why did you refuse to comply with the officer's orders?

 

[the_fat_man_ian]

That clip is irrelevant to this situation. If you believe I or any other officer violated policy, you can file an IA.

I had more than enough evidence to arrest you without needing to use /me or retrieve the weapon used in the crime. Whether I used /me or not, you still broke the laws and were arrested accordingly. If you believe I failed to conduct a proper investigation, file an IA.

Where in the report have I accused you of lying in a /me?

During the RP situation and in this AR, you claimed you were shooting at someone stealing your vehicle. Now, you're contradicting yourself by arguing that criminals are allowed to lie in RP. Which is it?

In case I haven't been clear enough, please explain why you shot through your window and continued shooting after an officer arrived on scene. If this was genuinely a self-defense situation, why did you refuse to comply with the officer's orders?

" During the RP situation and in this AR, you claimed you were shooting at someone stealing your vehicle. Now, you're contradicting yourself by arguing that criminals are allowed to lie in RP. Which is it? "

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its obviously not a contradiction and Its not one nor the other its objectively both?

Yes someone was driving my pink car and stole it without my permission yes i shot at them, none of that means i have to tell you exactly what happened when IC
again im a criminal if i snitch on someone directly i give them the opportunity to kos me witch is not a contradiction its OBJECTIVLY the truth,

your trying your absolute hardest to twist my words and by the time you were there i was way past done shooting. before i ever saw you i had time to drop my gun in hotel 4 bs with my team and ask them if they saw who did it and if it was a neighbor and then go back to my room and lock and close the door?

are you saying you were on scene the entire time with our announcing during gunfire?

and i literately refused none of your orders i did everything you asked down to the T, i Cannot Restate Enough That It's Not My Fault You Diddnt Gather ANY EVIDENCE. via /me or other means at your disposal that were deliberately created and are used for these situations

being at every point of my interaction with you here you have tried to bend everything i say at your will ill just leave it here, if staff believes i deserve a punishment they will use their judgement and whatever that may be i agree with it. but dont twist my words when ive been nothing but respectful with you dude -_- cheers have a nice night gamers


P.S.
idk why your telling me to make a IA dude i dont care i said verbatim "------ i understand this is a IA issue and not staff" this isint a report on you im simply supplying the context you asked me for. <3 cheers

 

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the gun was never stored we had hotel 2 and hotel 4 i had 2 i believe adam had 4 i dropped it in there bro

I find it hard to believe that you were able to shoot out of room 3 and drop the weapon in room 4 without making any door noises when I was standing at the entrance to the hallway.

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Please provide a clip from your POV of the situation, starting from when you shot the alleged car thief, as you claim you were defending your property.

 

[213]

your trying your absolute hardest to twist my words and by the time you were there i was way past done shooting. before i ever saw you i had time to drop my gun in hotel 4 bs with my team and ask them if they saw who did it and if it was a neighbor and then go back to my room and lock and close the door?

Refer to the clip posted in my previous comment. Your statement couldn't be further from the truth.