Ban Dispute (Aquaa)

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Punishment Type: Ban
Appeal Type: Dispute
Which staff member issued the punishment?: Aquaa
How long were you banned/blacklisted for?: 3 Days

Your Steam Name: Buasfe
Your Roleplay Name: Ale Jandro
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:35866031

Why were you banned/blacklisted?: I started a report and sent a clip to the admin because some guy mugged my friend in an unmuggable area and he had already tried to mug me before in the middle of the street in an unmuggable area, he asked me to put my hands up in the middle of the road but I didn't comply and I told him you're not allowed to mug me here you can't mug me here then the kid shot me and his other friend started shooting me so I got in my car and tried to run them over, I got one then I picked up his pistol and hid in a corner, during the whole thing another guy came up right where the dudes friend was so I shot him because I thought it was the guys friend that was shooting at me I don't know why he would come over here when we were just shooting but it was really fast like I really thought it was him you can see in the clip it happened in moments, even when you watch the clip you can see I thought it was that guy even afterwards, I only realised when the admin asked why I killed the other dude During this whole thing I was speaking to my friends on discord who were also on the server, I have never been aware of what metagaming even meant until now I thought it was an expression like "this gun is the new meta for this game" so I apologised for that because it was my bad, I genuinely was not aware that was a rule, I wouldn't incriminate myself by putting a clip with me breaking a rule if I knew that was a rule. the admin says the "mugging went wrong" but that's a really nice way of putting it considering the kid has been doing it all day to random people. I was also refusing to tell the admin the name of my two friends that were on discord with me, I apologised when he told me I was metagaming and I told him I wouldn't do it again, I didn't even realise that was a thing. But he told me if I told him their names he wouldn't ban me just warn me and put my friends on a metagaming list but I thought it was a bit unfair since this was all brought about because I showed the admin the video and now my friends are getting in trouble, I hope you can understand why I wouldn't say my friends names, we don't intentionally break rules I think the admins their know that but we are new so it's a bit hard to get used to certain things like I've never played an online game with friends without using some sort of other software like discord or skype, it's fun and new and I would really like to start playing that way, like no one had told me before, I know I'm the one who's meant to remember and understand the rules but like I said it's hard to read and remember every single thing. I think I should've been warned for it not banned...

Why should this appeal be considered?: I honestly don't believe it's worth banning me for 3 days I think it's a bit excessive considering I was the one who sent you the clip and every rule I broke I was unaware because of the intricacies of each of the rules, the kid who was breaking rules all day mugging people only got a warning... I think that's a little ridiculous, fair enough I did metagame but none of us knew what that meant I thought it was what I was saying before, we're from Scotland so maybe it's different but either that's not what metagaming means in Scotland or I'm thinking of two different things. I got a 3 day ban without a warning not to do it again, I really don't think it's fair to ban me without warning me first, there's a lot of rules it's hard to remember everything I'm sure you guys know that too but a 3 day ban when that kid gets a warn is so excessive I think, please consider what I've said as I love to play on perpheads, It's the only server that actually does RP well without the same boring map and the same money printer idea of making money.

Additional Information: I apologise to Aqua for being disrespectful in the report but we both used words like f*ck, not just me, I was only disrespectful when he moved on from why the report was made and went on to talk about how I'm gonna get in trouble for breaking rules when I was the one who made the report, I know it's not an excuse but I'm just trying to give an accurate statement of what happened, I really like your server and hope you guys can unban me.
 
and my birthdays tomorrow lmao please let me play on my birthday.
 
I honestly don't believe it's worth banning me for 3 days I think it's a bit excessive considering I was the one who sent you the clip and every rule I broke I was unaware because of the intricacies of each of the rules
The fact that you were the one who incriminated yourself doesn’t really mean anything, neither does ignorance towards the rules. Throughout the whole report you were being incredibly difficult when I was just explaining that you were also in the wrong.

The player in question received a warning, and you likely would have too if you hadn’t been disrespectful and just given me the names of your friends. If I remember correctly, you already have two warnings for 3.4, and the disrespect and failure to cooperate weren’t helping your situation.

What exactly are you trying to dispute here? What part of the ban is invalid? You’ll also need to provide evidence, the video you sent earlier is enough.
 
the link to the video is here
I was also speaking to my brother right before they mugged me and it wasn't through the whole report at the start I was trying to be as respectful as possible it was only when you started saying I was in the wrong which I admitted to in my post, I apologise for being rude but I was just really pissed off in the moment when I realised I was getting in trouble when I was the one who started the report, I know it doesn't matter that I incriminated myself but it really annoyed me in the moment that the topic moved on to that because I was under the assumption the kid was basically gonna get off scot free while I would get banned/warned so I was rude and I'm sorry for that Aquaa, I hope you understand why and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again, I didn't know whether to make an apology or a dispute because I guess it's kind of both as I felt 3 days was a bit long and I know I made that known when I was being an idiot and saying rude things and I know that I could've been just warned if I told you their names but I've known the dudes I was talking to for a while what does that make me look like telling on them when they're meant to be my friends and they didn't know about mettagaming... I know they probably would've not gotten in much trouble but I didn't think it was worth getting my friends in trouble. I get that you're an admin and you have a job but punishing me without giving me a warn first about it is what made me pick dispute, if you just warn me for it, you probably even know I wouldn't do anything, you can even see in the video I wasn't trying to intentionally break any rules, the kids were trying to rob me in the middle of the road and I did what I thought I was allowed to do.
 




In your initial post, you admit to all the actions you were banned for. You did try to run them over and you did shoot a uninvolved player and "you thought it was allowed", however it is stated in the rules that ignorance in any way towards the rules will not be accepted as reasoning.

You're continuously saying you "think it's excessive", but punishment is discretionary and up to the moderator who deals with you, and you cannot dispute the length or resulting punishment of a ban, only the ban itself. If you think the punishment is excessive, you should make a staff complaint.

If you still think your actions were not against the rules, I will deal with this dispute later today.
If you can see now why you broke the rules, you can instead make an apology directed at @Aquaa.
It's up to you.
 




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