The state of the server is getting worse

[alden]

idk if im the only person to which doesn't feel this way, i mean yeah there's not as much as roleplay as it used to be, but i still have fun roleplaying, sometims you just have to initaite it yourself and watch others join you, i also avoid conflict if possible, for example i know a shit ton of people who would jump at an opportunity to KOS someone only because the rules allow them, not because they truly want to kill that person, i honestly avoid conflict unless i'm going raiding/basing, sometimes it's good to take a break, hop on roadcrew or medic and just interact with people

 

[Cavarey♫]

I totally agree on the server not being focused around RP anymore. Yesterday, when living in a simple house, I was raided 9 times in 3 hours, and kidnapped 2 times for that matter. Barricading your windows or not, they enter gunsblazing all the same.

It is indeed currently focused on several big raid groups beefing throughout the city of Paralake. Even most of the cops don't care about rping anymore, especially highly ranked officers, which surely is a shame. But then again, people continue to play the server and pay their subscription so nothing will change in the future.

 

[Anthony]

I'm a Patrol trainer and I get paid but I don't touch this server at all unless I have to. I only do taser apps and that's about it. I'm not gonna go into detail on why I don't play on here is because my post on this thread will be taking down because I hurt someone's feelings with the truth

I mean thanks for proving my point? I guess?

 

[Goonsberg]

Make raid timer 12 hours long

 

[alden]

Make raid timer 12 hours long

the server is missing you and your shotgun and sniper, that's the fix

 

[Fredy]

It's literally not comming back. People in community management called this "an eyesore" and complained about people there crafting all day with no risk.

Are these "community management" people in the room with us right now?

The reason bazaar was made the way it is now is because everyone was constantly moaning how it was impossible to get a shop, how you had to have no life and camp the server all day to keep your show and how the performance was terrible, how there was constant RDM, etc.
The mall type approach was literally suggested by this community (example).

Clearly, the V6 bazaar overshot in the wrong direction by being too big. That's why peeps is changing it to be smaller in V6.1 to get back more of a smaller feel with more interactions.

99% of all roleplay in V5 happened in bazaar. Everything outside of it was just like you complain V6 to be, so as far as I can see fixing bazaar will fix this problem you are feeling.

 

[Tilin]

I love all these complaints, but has anyone tried to encourage passive RP themselves much and if yes, what?

 

[Anthony]

Look tbh, the community steered itself in this direction and the only real way it's going to change is a herculean effort by some of the key figures in the community. Beut why would they try to change if the Community wants it this way?

It's literally ying and yang, the players themselves have to show meaningful change, and then the Admins / PLPD Management will too, hopefully.

 

[walnash]

There should be some sort of community meeting that could be hosted on discord. It would give people the chance to talk about issues, suggestions or the direction of how the server is going instead of having 5 different forums posts scattered around. It could go a long way with keeping the community feeling engaged by having that sort of avenue to speak how they feel or making them feel heard instead of ranting on a forums post to then be forgotten about.

 

[Anthony]

Are these "community management" people in the room with us right now?

The reason bazaar was made the way it is now is because everyone was constantly moaning how it was impossible to get a shop, how you had to have no life and camp the server all day to keep your show and how the performance was terrible, how there was constant RDM, etc.
The mall type approach was literally suggested by this community (example).

Clearly, the V6 bazaar overshot in the wrong direction by being too big. That's why peeps is changing it to be smaller in V6.1 to get back more of a smaller feel with more interactions.

99% of all roleplay in V5 happened in bazaar. Everything outside of it was just like you complain V6 to be, so as far as I can see fixing bazaar will fix this problem you are feeling.

Bazaar nostalgia is a weird one, everyone at the time was moaning about not being able to get a shop.. which caused people to stay online and AFK all day with the shops, meaning Bazaar was inflated by completely AFK shop keepers with most of the time overpriced weapons just to stop people from buying them so they couldn't get "F6-AFK kicked" ...

Bazaar right now is absolutely perfect to allow roleplay, the only thing I would recommend is removing the 4 shops on the ends from both the top and lower levels but as you said theres already a plan in the works. Staff have even made it clear Bazaar owners making roleplay Bazaars get an increase to 115 props, it is up to the community as a whole to want the change, for it to happen, and the majority are comfortable with the raiding arcade style gameplay right now, so it will probably stay.

 

[MalekIsWeird]

99% of all roleplay in V5 happened in bazaar.

But why must it come back to that?

Maybe I am asking a lot and or being naive, but I feel like PERP has the potential to house active crime that keeps players engaged and occupied BESIDES what seems to me like the current monotone of Raid - Base - Raid - Wait Cooldown - Repeat.

The roads on V6 are masterfully designed and it feels like it does not get the love it deserves.

This is yet another reason as to why I kept saying as of recently that if people had an alternative to raiding which they can do regularly to use these roads in getaway chases, Players would probably not feel nearly as bored. Unfortunately, the closest thing we have is a chopshop mission that cools down over 24h after you do it once.

 

[kerzify]

I semi get where this thread is coming from and I can see that you aren't alone with these feelings, but I think some of the issues being brought up have deeper context behind them that's worth considering.

A lot of organisations are currently focused on leaderboard XP, which naturally pushes them toward doing more illegal jobs. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just the system that is at play, but it does lead to more raids and less organic interactions, especially during off-peak hours. That being said, it's still up to all the players to diversify their roleplay instead of falling into the same repetitive loops. For the PD, I agree that it needs to be stricter in aspects when it comes to duties and overall standards. Officers who aren't pulling their weight should face appropriate more severe consequences and more accountability would help shift the balance back towards quality roleplay rather than shootouts.

People are also mentioning Bazaar, and that's fair. There were major complaints about it's size and layout which Fredy has acknowledged, and a rework already being implemented. While it may not be perfect yet, Peeps is continuing to ensure it's perfect and hopefully make it more compact. On the topic of roleplay, there really shouldn't be incentives just to get people to engage with each other, Active roleplay is basic expectation of being apart of this community, it's not something that should be rewarded constantly.

Regarding V5 and V6, whilst I understand that some players miss aspects of V5, the reality is that it was becoming repetitive and stale for a lot of players, V6 was the necessary step forward and a breath of fresh air, with time and continued feedback, things can keep improving.

 

[Lushi]

There should be some sort of community meeting that could be hosted on discord. It would give people the chance to talk about issues, suggestions or the direction of how the server is going instead of having 5 different forums posts scattered around. It could go a long way with keeping the community feeling engaged by having that sort of avenue to speak how they feel or making them feel heard instead of ranting on a forums post to then be forgotten about.

99% of the meeting will be people screaming "bring back v5"

 

[rxsm]

The mall type approach was literally suggested by this community (example).

So what you’re saying is @Speedy ruined the server? Oy vey

 

[Pufferfish]

Ban leaderboards, No more XP or zerg’s fighting for top place. Sorted

 

[Eistee von Aldi]

Are these "community management" people in the room with us right now?

The reason bazaar was made the way it is now is because everyone was constantly moaning how it was impossible to get a shop, how you had to have no life and camp the server all day to keep your show and how the performance was terrible, how there was constant RDM, etc.
The mall type approach was literally suggested by this community (example).

Clearly, the V6 bazaar overshot in the wrong direction by being too big. That's why peeps is changing it to be smaller in V6.1 to get back more of a smaller feel with more interactions.

99% of all roleplay in V5 happened in bazaar. Everything outside of it was just like you complain V6 to be, so as far as I can see fixing bazaar will fix this problem you are feeling.

"bazaar was too in demand so we made it a less desireable place"
also craft and sell exp was nerfed into the ground in the same update, clearly you give no shits about those players

 

[Fredy]

But why must it come back to that?

Because it is already possible to have that kind of RP in V6 but it is not happening. It seems like people need/want a confined space where RP is encouraged.

 

[Fredy]

also craft and sell exp was nerfed into the ground in the same update, clearly you give no shits about those players

I don't know what's going on in your head but this is just not happening. We don't sit and discuss how we want to destroy bazaar or crafting orgs. If anything, it's quite the opposite.

 

[Pufferfish]

Maybe all we need is people to make events themselves and encourage RP that way?

FY is an event where people all love to race, compete and it encourages RP, Traffic officers coming together to set up cordons and direct traffic Roadcrew and EMS ready for the cleanup afterwards.

It isn’t the City that’s the issue. Its the players/orgs who serve one purpose - To raid, grow, Raid, Bank.

Dont get me wrong there will be no RP in v6 as long as groups continuously fight for XP and a leaderboard status, People only getting on PD to Respond to shootouts. you can’t encourage RP to people who clearly just do not want it.

 

[George Cole]

I love all these complaints, but has anyone tried to encourage passive RP themselves much and if yes, what?

I couldn't agree more with Tilin, if y'all want more roleplay than shootouts, create scenarios! Lately I've been playing more as civilian to create more fun towards the other civs and emergency services. Me and @GamingPeach, got stuck at city Bridge couple days ago, I roleplayed that I was incarcerated inside the car, the situation involved PD, EMS, FD, and RC just for one situation. Just use your mind!
There's so much to do, honestly, yesterday me and @sidd went on a car stealing rampage, it was hella fun too.