Police Suggestion Increase RTU traffic cone limit

[northnortheast]

Suggestion Title: Increase RTU traffic cone limit
Suggestion Description: Increase the limit for traffic equipment (cones, barriers, signs) for certified Road Traffic Officers in gear from 15 to 20. This does not affect any other limits (the max number of road closed barricades is still 4).

Why should this be added?:
+ Reduces the common occurrence of having to pick up important cones and barriers because 15 is sometimes not enough to give advance warning and close roads/lanes safely
+ Allows more comprehensive traffic control, such as contraflow systems, lane narrowing, and diversions
+ Drivers are bad at interpreting gaps in cones, so more density is good which this can facilitate in some situations
+ This can already be done by just buying and placing one’s own cone props, but is much more hassle and doesn’t cover the whole range of signage
+ This was previously suggested in V5, but is newly relevant in V6 due to increased vehicle speeds, longer and wider highways, and response and road clearing times being longer

What negatives could this have?:
- The availability of cones may encourage unnecessary spam, but this is easily counteracted by RTU officers being held to policy.
- Additional cones on the highway causing performance issues? Again this is already possible by placing your own cones down/grouping with other officers but is more hassle

What problem would this suggestion solve?: Running out of cones when handling scenes due to the larger scale of V6 compared to the 15-cone limit designed for V5.

 

[northnortheast]

@Wescott any thoughts on this? The 15 cone limit was added in V5 when roads were shorter and slower, but with V6 highways and car speeds I'd think it important to have enough cones to place down without making huge sacrifices.

 

[Dekkrior]

i honestly wouldn't even mind if it was just the straight up prop limit. Across the board sometimes you just need a lot, like when trying to block off a large area as firefighter or a particularly long MVC as RTU, or a vehicle fire while you wait for police as RC. At the very least let me place a couple slow down signs independently of cones to warn people who are coming ahead of time without making me condense the barricade that pushes drivers to shift lanes.

I also think you should be able to recall your barricades manually if at a certain distance. It already does this with a prompt automatically, and being able to trigger it remotely would honestly be very helpful for situations where you've left and realized you've accidentally left a couple signs on the side of the road and need to set up a new barricade.

 

[Fielding]

i honestly wouldn't even mind if it was just the straight up prop limit. Across the board sometimes you just need a lot, like when trying to block off a large area as firefighter or a particularly long MVC as RTU, or a vehicle fire while you wait for police as RC. At the very least let me place a couple slow down signs independently of cones to warn people who are coming ahead of time without making me condense the barricade that pushes drivers to shift lanes.

I also think you should be able to recall your barricades manually if at a certain distance. It already does this with a prompt automatically, and being able to trigger it remotely would honestly be very helpful for situations where you've left and realized you've accidentally left a couple signs on the side of the road and need to set up a new barricade.

Afaik the Barricade and Prop limits are seperated. Dank attempted to give me higher prop limit to see if i would get more barricades. This failed.

Would be nice to have 20-25 barricades, but if there are 6+ people in RTO gear perhaps it should go back to 15 ?

Would be very nice with an ability to remove all barricades remotely like people can remove theirs at CH. Perhaps allow removal of them at PD NPC for balance.

 

[Dekkrior]

Afaik the Barricade and Prop limits are seperated. Dank attempted to give me higher prop limit to see if i would get more barricades. This failed.

Would be nice to have 20-25 barricades, but if there are 6+ people in RTO gear perhaps it should go back to 15 ?

Would be very nice with an ability to remove all barricades remotely like people can remove theirs at CH. Perhaps allow removal of them at PD NPC for balance.

Yeah they are separate, I'm more saying that i'd be fine if they just counted as props to the prop limit, or were extended to be equivalent to your prop limit

 

[Fielding]

Yeah they are separate, I'm more saying that i'd be fine if they just counted as props to the prop limit, or were extended to be equivalent to your prop limit

That would be an appropriate solution

 

[northnortheast]

i honestly wouldn't even mind if it was just the straight up prop limit.

This works and is actually doable at the moment because you can place all the cones and barricades by just buying the props and placing them down. It's just a huge hassle and a pain as you have to carry those and other cops can't pick up your cones.

The road closed barricade is a separate limit so would not be affected.

I can imagine it being useful if the limit was within a radius kind of like the police evidence markers; when you are in a certain radius of another traffic officer your total barricades 'combine' but I can imagine this having some significant development and performance overhead for an otherwise simple to resolve issue. Perhaps being in the same incident as another officer should combine your totals?