Action Request (Jamie, Tinky)

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Your Steam Name: orzel1244
Your Roleplay Name: Paul Clark
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:39685259

Player's Steam Name: Jamie, Tinky
Player's Roleplay Name: Jack Bushos, Quintavius Brown
Player's SteamID: STEAM_0:1:58009824 STEAM_0:0:107027937

Why should this player be punished?: First of all I'll bring you some background - they (ASDA) are targetting me and my friends for unknown reason since long time, I have posted AR on friend of Jamie for being too toxic and the AR were accepted (https://perpheads.com/threads/action-request-lil_wojtyła.49730/#post-385380) and he got banned for 2 weeks, after that Jamie said something like "You have banned my friend" (but without saying that we will regret it or something), after that we are being perma raided - yesterday around 5-6 times in row, once it was after 61 mins cuz they even setted timer to be able to legally raid us without breaking rules just after that limit which is kind of weird and sweaty.

About this situation:
- Firstly Jamie asked where are blueberries - that's how we used to be called by ASDA when we all had blue skins (now we have red ones)
- After that they came to casino saying "I found this one", sarcasticly saying that they're big fans of us which is cringy
- Tinky asked for taking pants which is sexual rp. I have done /me because I thought he may have good joke and I dont usually get offended if the person doesnt want to offend me, but turned out to do toxic shit as usual by saying that he's 17 and I am pedo
- After that they have insulted us few times
- Tinky stolen car in public for unkown reason while having heavy guns at their backs (if cops would come, they'd get shot, and there was no profit from this sutiation, they didnt even need that car, they have done it just as 2.5 as it's slower than their car)
- Jamie said "WHY TARGETTING ME" while stealing car which is making fun of report I have done yesterday (I wanted admin to check if they waited colddown, cuz they raided after 61 mins and I was suprised, thought it was like 50 mins so just wanted to make sure they havent broke that rule)
- Tinky ran over my friend for unknown reason with unknown profit risking his life as we could kill them later because of that or atleast call cops

- Also they had heavy guns at their backs which is not realistic at casino, there were few npcs, also some at regnatech

I don't think it's usual RP when you're joining server, going to gamble with your friend, doesnt hurt anyone, and some people are asking OOC where we are, then finding us and insulting for no reason. If they're targetting us then it's 2.5, if we have robbed them (don't remember when, maybe week ago or never) then it's NLR, I see many rules broken, or playing on edge of rules, I don't feel good with this kind of "RP" I thought perp is safe place, I don't like being targetted and bullied.

Evidence Link: https://streamable.com/8exdvi
 
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Youre lying in your AR massively. You said 'suck my dick' so if anything you're bringing 'sexual' rp.

I ran over your friend while trying to drive off, what do you want me to drive into a wall??

You claimed it wasnt your car IC so I proceeded to steal it.

Target you when I dont even play?

Insults are not banned just grow up

My demo can prove it all so if staff tell me i giv zis one.
 
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Let me start this from the first thing you have said
they (ASDA) are targetting me and my friends for unknown reason since long time, I have posted AR on friend of Jamie for being too toxic and the AR were accepted (https://perpheads.com/threads/action-request-lil_wojtyła.49730/#post-385380) and he got banned for 2 weeks, after that Jamie said something like "You have banned my friend"
I would like to tell you that I am not targeting you. Me raiding you does not mean you are being targeted. You are a decent size group and normally base with multiple people. The way me and my org see it is you are a more valuable target than the sweater basing in S1 with tv's blocking his windows. I will also raid anyone it isn't just limited to you and your org. I would also like to add yesterday when I raided you at regals and you moved to morons the timer removes itself, And the 60 min cooldown does not have to be waited out to re-raid you.

Now lets move on to what you are reporting me for.
Firstly Jamie asked where are blueberries
This is just a straight lie, Your own demo shows its tinky who says this lol. Please don't slander me.
After that they came to casino saying "I found this one", sarcasticly saying that they're big fans of us which is cringy
Us coming to casino to do our spins is just a random accident that you are also there. Also being "cringe" is not a rulebreak.
Tinky asked for taking pants which is sexual rp
your words to tinky was "suck my dick" If anything you brought sexual RP into the situation.
I dont usually get offended if the person doesnt want to offend me, but turned out to do toxic shit as usual by saying that he's 17 and I am pedo
You telling a 17 year old kid to suck your dick is a sketchy thing to do and would make you a pedo.
- After that they have insulted us few times
Please do not put us together I don't recall insulting you at all. I blatantly said "Look I found thiz one". This is a inside joke between my discord friends!

- Tinky stolen car in public for unkown reason while having heavy guns at their backs (if cops would come, they'd get shot, and there was no profit from this sutiation, they didnt even need that car, they have done it just as 2.5 as it's slower than their car)
Robbing a car in public is not a rulebreak as shown by @TinySlayer Due to a automatic alarm being on EVERY car the cops will always know where the car is being stolen. This is a server sided thing and is not controlled by the user. Having a heavy gun on our back will not cause cops to shoot us. They will tell us to put our hands up and comply with them if we shot them we would be breaking the rules of 3.4 and 2.5. Fyi your car is faster than mine. But I still left in my own car. Again putting the situation on multiple people when they was just standing there lol.
- Jamie said "WHY TARGETTING ME" while stealing car which is making fun of report I have done yesterday
Considering your allowed to tell my org members to suck your dick along with shit talking us I don't see how saying "why you target me" is a targeting remark, or a toxic remark in any way shape or form lol. Again, I have explained how I did not break the raiding rules on your bases above ^^^

- Tinky ran over my friend for unknown reason with unknown profit risking his life as we could kill them later because of that or atleast call cops
Ask @Tinky for tiz one
- Also they had heavy guns at their backs which is not realistic at casino, there were few npcs, also some at regnatech
Again not a rulebreak to have guns on our back, It would bring a rp situation between us and cops depending on the outcome then it would be rulebreaks, also if this is considered a rulebreak you might want to report every single user that has gone into casino or walked in public with a gun on there back for no reason.

As for your last paragraph I do not see where I broke any of these rules you are stating, You are looking way to far into it and stating anything I say towards you is 2.5. I raid you because I want to raid you, Or am being asked to raid you by people like @Moon lol.

TLDR @thehomelessdude I was bored so i wrote alot, I dont see what I breaks the rule 2.5, nor 3.4.
 
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I do not feel that Tinky or Jamie are breaking rules by calling you a pedo or other various insults; things like this are allowed in an in-character context as long as they're doing so in a way that breaks 1.2.

The act of stealing your car in a public area is allowed, there is no rule prohibiting cars from being stolen in public areas, as long as it's not within direct eyeshot of a police officer.
Similarly, being in possession of a firearm in public, no matter what size is a matter of law and not rules, so should be dealt with in character. As Jamie mentioned in his comment, if he attempted to use this weapon to start a shootout over a minor crime he would have broken rules, but being in possession of it alone is not against the rules.

@Tinky you should be keeping your org-related beef in character. @Jack Bruhross, if your targeting claim was in response to a previous admin situation, it should be kept out of character. However, in these two extremely minor situations, I do not think it is necessary to issue punishment.
 
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