Suggestion Title: Detectives
Suggestion Description: A new whitelisted PD secondary division, with detective gear, similar to TFU and Traffic, with the primary purpose of information gathering.
First and foremost, I believe for this role to be meaningful, supervisors should not have access to the DNA tool any longer. Right now they basically half-fill the role of a detective using the DNA tool already, and that's a role that they honestly don't need, on top of their supervisor duties.
Detectives would have a black or other suitably boring suit, and a police vest overtop of it, or something similar. A unique and interesting uniform that sets them apart from uniformed officers is the primary intended aesthetic.
Policies would prevent detectives from responding to shootouts in detective gear, to avoid them using their non-uniformed appearance to their advantage.
Detectives would have access to unmarked vehicles only.
Detectives would use a Delta 1-3 callsign.
Detectives would not have access to any primary weapons, such as shotguns, and have only light armour.
Detectives would be limited to two in gear at any one time, with the potential for one more to be on duty with a mayoral policy.
Detectives would have a standard DNA tool, as well as "forensics kit" which would permit them to get the name of an individual who:
- Last drove a vehicle
- Last picked up a dropped item/weapon
- Broke a crowbar/bobby pin
This may seem overpowered, and if it had no counters, it may well be, however I believe Acetone, or another, more expensive chemical, should be able to be used to wipe that item/vehicle/debris clean of forensic evidence.
- 10s use time for wiping a vehicle clean
- 3s use time for wiping an item/weapon/debris clean
I don't believe acetone should be able to be used to remove DNA from bodies, as that would make it too easy to get away with murder, but the acetone will allow criminals an effective counter to detective's evidence gathering, should they be prepared, and have the time to complete the purge.
The latest chop shop addition, where the car doesn't immediately disappear, would be perfect for this. Car thieves would have to decide whether they have enough time to clean the car after dropping it off, or if they have to run to avoid police then and there, and deal with the car being linked to them if/when a detective arrives.
I'd really like to hear feedback from the crim mains on how this can be balanced, rather than just rejecting it out of hand. I think the acetone is a good counter, and makes criminals need to think more about cleaning up after themselves, but I'd like to hear some other perspectives.
Why should this be added?:
Makes stealing and abandoning cars carry some weight and risk.
Makes determining who's gun belongs to who in a dispute easier.
Makes determining who broke in possible, in instances where no body is left behind.
It's cool. That's a perfectly valid reason.
What negatives could this have?:
Detectives abusing their civilian appearance to gain an advantage in shootouts.
More difficult to get away with crime.
What problem would this suggestion solve?: Cars get stolen and abandoned all the time, and chop shop right now is pretty damn easy when the only way to figure out who stole the car is by catching them in the act.
Suggestion Description: A new whitelisted PD secondary division, with detective gear, similar to TFU and Traffic, with the primary purpose of information gathering.
First and foremost, I believe for this role to be meaningful, supervisors should not have access to the DNA tool any longer. Right now they basically half-fill the role of a detective using the DNA tool already, and that's a role that they honestly don't need, on top of their supervisor duties.
Detectives would have a black or other suitably boring suit, and a police vest overtop of it, or something similar. A unique and interesting uniform that sets them apart from uniformed officers is the primary intended aesthetic.
Policies would prevent detectives from responding to shootouts in detective gear, to avoid them using their non-uniformed appearance to their advantage.
Detectives would have access to unmarked vehicles only.
Detectives would use a Delta 1-3 callsign.
Detectives would not have access to any primary weapons, such as shotguns, and have only light armour.
Detectives would be limited to two in gear at any one time, with the potential for one more to be on duty with a mayoral policy.
Detectives would have a standard DNA tool, as well as "forensics kit" which would permit them to get the name of an individual who:
- Last drove a vehicle
- Last picked up a dropped item/weapon
- Broke a crowbar/bobby pin
This may seem overpowered, and if it had no counters, it may well be, however I believe Acetone, or another, more expensive chemical, should be able to be used to wipe that item/vehicle/debris clean of forensic evidence.
- 10s use time for wiping a vehicle clean
- 3s use time for wiping an item/weapon/debris clean
I don't believe acetone should be able to be used to remove DNA from bodies, as that would make it too easy to get away with murder, but the acetone will allow criminals an effective counter to detective's evidence gathering, should they be prepared, and have the time to complete the purge.
The latest chop shop addition, where the car doesn't immediately disappear, would be perfect for this. Car thieves would have to decide whether they have enough time to clean the car after dropping it off, or if they have to run to avoid police then and there, and deal with the car being linked to them if/when a detective arrives.
I'd really like to hear feedback from the crim mains on how this can be balanced, rather than just rejecting it out of hand. I think the acetone is a good counter, and makes criminals need to think more about cleaning up after themselves, but I'd like to hear some other perspectives.
Why should this be added?:
Makes stealing and abandoning cars carry some weight and risk.
Makes determining who's gun belongs to who in a dispute easier.
Makes determining who broke in possible, in instances where no body is left behind.
It's cool. That's a perfectly valid reason.
What negatives could this have?:
Detectives abusing their civilian appearance to gain an advantage in shootouts.
More difficult to get away with crime.
What problem would this suggestion solve?: Cars get stolen and abandoned all the time, and chop shop right now is pretty damn easy when the only way to figure out who stole the car is by catching them in the act.
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