What makes you enjoy PVP

I don't, I just want to do community policing and passive rp.

I enjoy pistol only pvp because its much more chaotic and because this isn't Fallujah Iraq It's a western city.

MJ. said:

The PVP culture (by other players) on this server is straight dogshit and its obscure how some of the people on this server find it fun as it just relies on mass flanking and zerging no actual fun compared to the much more traditional v5 PVP which required skill or some actual plan

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This was always the culture. Maybe I’m just too newgen but majority of the top orgs from back then were massive zergs like Legacy and Tax Collectors.

I remember one time me Medium and Katya Love got 11 man raided and we genuinely killed majority just for 3 more to come after flanking pd and kill us. This Zerg mentality has always been a massive part of pvp because it’s simply a guaranteed way of winning; nobody likes losing.

Zerging is practically now required to combat other orgs and pd since the map is massive and other organizations have 15+ people.

I don’t disagree with your argument because there were orgs like MiP, Partabellum, and Grow Inc (made it to top 2 orgs so I count them) that garnerd massive org xp from combat and drugs while only having a set few active members but anyone else relied on numbers. The only reason some people say “V5 was better” is because of nostalgia and their own participation in zerging. The “actual plan” you are talking about probably includes 3 people flanking, 1 as50 posted near the raid , 2 people holding the entrance, and 4 others pushing in.

Spooky Pyro said:

This was always the culture. Maybe I’m just too newgen but majority of the top orgs from back then were massive zergs like Legacy and Tax Collectors.

I remember one time me Medium and Katya Love got 11 man raided and we genuinely killed majority just for 3 more to come after flanking pd and kill us. This Zerg mentality has always been a massive part of pvp because it’s simply a guaranteed way of winning; nobody likes losing.

Zerging is practically now required to combat other orgs and pd since the map is massive and other organizations have 15+ people.

I don’t disagree with your argument because there were orgs like MiP, Partabellum, and Grow Inc (made it to top 2 orgs so I count them) that garnerd massive org xp from combat and drugs while only having a set few active members but anyone else relied on numbers. The only reason some people say “V5 was better” is because of nostalgia and their own participation in zerging. The “actual plan” you are talking about probably includes 3 people flanking, 1 as50 posted near the raid , 2 people holding the entrance, and 4 others pushing in.

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Idk about required it's a RP server i dont think people should regularly be killing PD unless this server has now became Antistasi. Also on a different note i find this whole "the server is dead no one is basing point" straight up stupid as the people who complain about these issues always have like 8 people in their base or are all friends with 90% of the server apparently.

Yes zerging has been a thing however I've never recalled it being this obnoxious to the point where people will zerg the entire server, whinge when others zerg to defend themselves and it just creates mega zergs making the server horrible for everyone. However in V5 orgs were able to do small raids without requiring a quadrillion people however the incredibly shitty pvp on this server is simply a cycle of others simply mimicking how other bigger orgs play and copying them then said big orgs complain when they dont have total control of the PVP aspect of the server.

If you genuinely find just mass flanking cops and spamming as50s fun you maybe don't actually like the challenge of PVP and rather it just being easy. However the things ive listed above makes playing the server as a criminal or cop just a incredibly horrible experience as its not actually recreational nowadays