TL;DR of tldr?From deep thought about the topic, despite often complaining about the hit registration issues gaslighting me into becoming a servant of the rat god in my walls, Overall is minuscule compared to the other downsides of lowering it.
The PVP aspect is heavily bought up when arguing against the server slots being so high. From what I’ve seen in reports, a huge portion of the new players actually hate this aspect of the server as it is obstructing their daily activity and no one wants to sit on a curb for 20 minutes waiting for a shootout to end.
The upper management obviously don‘t want to prioritise the need Player vs Player interactions and the people who play to do nothing but shoot other players in some way, shape or form over everyone else, including paying donators looking to generally make the most of their VIP subscription by playing as much as they can. It’s pretty open that the community managers are praising players who are building fun areas for other players to go ahead and enjoy as a public space, and that players who do nothing but PVP are more heavily scrutinised in reports.
What we need to consider is for how long the server has tried to breakaway from being almost solely a PVP server and if hitreg is going to really gravitate as a reason for wanting less player slots, Especially how aggressive and obstructive it has become in terms of people shooting people without warning. New players doing their “buy a house” mission are being gunned down on entry to the apartment completely unaware, and reasonably so, that they’re breaking server rules by entering the shootout. A shootout at bazaar halts crafting and players buying things as well as turns a clear pathway into a hazard they aren’t allowed to cross.
An issue I will elaborate upon in great detail right now is one that the majority of new players who found themselves into shootouts and wound up dead all believe the pvp aspect of the server in its current warzone form is a deterrent to wanting to play here. In general a PVP situation restricts access to that part of the map, which is especially prevalent as the majority of these situations occur in bazaar, apartment blocks, and other areas where a significant portion of player activities are halted for what could be up to 20 minutes at a time in some apartments. The meta is to pick apartments to base in over houses because the apartments are miles easier to defend than houses. A shootout at the wood cabins doesnt really ruin anyone else’s experience.
And consider this, players who are spending the better portion of their playtime turning a sizeable portion of the city scape into a high intensity warzone begging for United Nations military intervention; Beyond an enjoyable shooting game experience akin maybe to a casual match of CS for the few players who are allowed to, by rules, get involved, what benefit does it really bring? I’ve built and partaken in passive RP structures at bazaar just for all of us to have to submit to a godstick enforced mandatory evacuation of the area because someone with an arrest warrant didn’t let said warrant deter them from partaking in the daily stand around bazaar with no real intention world championship.
The undisputed fact is the playercount has not killed PVP at all and shootouts still occur regularly, more than enough for players to enjoy themselves, and certainly enough for players to have their gaming session interrupted by them.
Obviously I enjoy partaking and regularly start said shootouts. I never was going to imply this behaviour is, in general problematic. A large scale shootout is a Roleplay event. Key word is event. The issue arises when it no longer becomes an event but an hourly guarantee. Shootouts constantly breaking out, even over a simple verbal threat, gets old, and people get bored of deciding that they’re going to let it ruin their day. Spending the majority of your playtime as a passive RPer stood on a curb twiddling my thumbs waiting for people to finish killing one another just to take a pot luck guess to see if it’s even over doesn't make for an enjoyable experience in general.
Lowering the playercount, whilst i personally would enjoy having more shots register, would solely to be to ponder for that aspect of the server and nothing else. Maybe to make driving smoother? I’ve only had like 2 lag related crashes lately.
Bearing in mind that the server is regularly full, and this is already with the 128 player slots an obstructive issue. Lowering the count would guarantee the server is consistently full. Furthermore, due to training and recruitment within the PD being carried out on the live server, I have a prevalent issue of not being able to attend said sessions because I didn’t join the server 2 hours ago.
As I previously highlighted, the problem with our solution could mean that we’ll find ourselves a few months later claiming that there was a problem with our solution and that the solution to our new problem was the problem we had before. The problem with our solution is it will create an obvious problem where the solution is to go back entirely on this and make this effort mundane.
Tl;dr: PVP isn’t likely to ever be seen as a reason to want to lower playercount by both new players and upper management and playercount probably won’t be reduced solely to cater for the PvP aspect of the game mode when a huge portion, the majority potentially, of new players already disagree with the fact that they shouldn’t be allowed to enter their homes or access shops, NPCs and other methods of shopping and travel because people started raiding, and that said players shouldn’t shoot them when they clearly and obviously won’t be a threat to them.
The problem with your solution is the problem that called for the solution creates a problem in which the initial problem will be the only solution and wasting time yoyoing between both states would be a complete inevitability.
Do you enjoy 128 slots?
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bring back queue server
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i agree with that statement its too long tho i dont want to read it..
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Guys I know we are expressing opinions, but the original reason for the post was just to ask if you liked it or not. Posts like bring back queue server aren’t really giving me insight on why you do or do not like it lol.
Sorry @Bnje im not reading that book you wrote, plz write a TLDR
Sorry @Bnje im not reading that book you wrote, plz write a TLDR
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ok but bring back queue server ( i never played when it was a thing )
How is more slots bad for RP? The only thing that is harder and less fun with more players online is afk powergrowing
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Passive RP is not the only form of roleplay. I dislike how some people are completely throwing priority roleplay under the bus and oversimplifying it down when anybody mentions it as something of importance to the quality of the perp experience as a whole to just framing it as people wanting to turn the server into an esports competition. No bro, priority roleplay is also roleplay and more players causing more lag causes these situations to be almost unbearable even before the shooting especially if it happens at bazaar where the before and after is less than half your fps dropping if you look one direction then turn around and it somewhat comes back. Then comes the struggle of hitreg and shooting on your target. I have seen many instances of trash talking about how the playstyle of those who like to PVP primarily but I never see people trash talk passive roleplay and in my opinion I feel like it's toxic and a bit unfair to demonize a group of players just for wanting to have a quality experience on perp the way they want whilst abiding by rules or disregard their wants and needs when they speak up about them.
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Yes.
Sure PvP is harder, still more to do anyway, when you play at lower hours like myself there is often a struggle to find something to do.
Sure PvP is harder, still more to do anyway, when you play at lower hours like myself there is often a struggle to find something to do.
It sucks for me too when bazaar is already 15 fps and I want 3x props and HD youtube videos and make it even worse, but I would never exchange the fun of playing on a full 128 slot gmod rp server, which is insane and unique to have in 2023 anyway, just for better frames and tickrates, that is not a good compromise.
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you just gave a perfect example of what I am speaking of. Also the points you argued aren't truly as valid as you may think because they seem to be complaints regarding the lack of luxuries being available due to the player limit which you sound entitled to as a passive-rp main. The reason you made an example is because you threw Priority RP under the bus even when replying to a whole comment regarding how it is an important part of the game and started making it all about passive rp as if that's the only type of roleplay to be catered to when making changes for the sake of the community.
Bro don't call me entitled when you want less people to be able to play so you can high noon 6 cops with a revolver like McCree from Overwatch
bro asked gpt to write this
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I wish it was that easy.
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I would optimistic react you if I could
Nah he typed all that out bro, if you actually read it he's right. Hopefully they find a way to further optimize it if at all possible
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All my points still stand valid meanwhile you're here attempting to deflect by attacking me instead of any of my points because you're annoyed I called out your argument since the points are referring to luxuries and seemed to be be based off of entitlement to luxuries as if they're for granted and non-negligible to your experience being high quality. I don't intend to insult but in my honest opinion I find your choice of response to be ignorant by completely not commenting on any of what my points ACTUALLY were and just selecting one, taking it out of context, then making a childish joke about it. Please calm down, and lets discuss things without having to resort to attacking each other but instead address the points we bring :/
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