Giving Enforcers Logs

[Suspine]

Description of the idea: gives enforcers the ability to access logs

Why should this be added? (pros):

Allows enforcers to handle sits while their the only staff members online/ the only one not AFK

Enforcers are more prepared for moderator

Enforcers can handle sits on their own

What negatives could this have? (cons): [list of all bad aspects]

Could be abused? Not sure

 

[Husky]

If this is implemented they may as well just be moderators lol, because dealing with their own sits with logs would then escalate to them needing the ability to ban

 

[Suspine]

They don’t need to be able to ban. They would be more efficient while their on alone and need logs in order to handle a sit

 

[LEWIS 088]

Enforcers are not supposed to handle reports which require logs because they are basically in training.

 

[Sam]

What @Husky said, but also, enforcer is a first step, it allows SA to see if they can trust the person without giving them too much power. Logs contains a lot of data, and I personally would not want random enforcers to see my real IP, and honestly I don’t think moderators should be able to see IPs either, but that is another discussion.

Giving enforcers more and more permissions makes no sense, when a person is ready they will be promoted to moderator. It’s supposed to be a staff in training rank, imo they should not even have noclip.

 

[LEWIS 088]

@Samuel I was very against giving Enforcers no clip and even access to the report menu, imagine a fresh Enforcer having access to logs.

 

[Deleted member 5577]

@Samuel do enforcers not get the enhanced tab menu?

 

[Sam]

@LEWIS 088 yes, I remember being an enforcer, it can feel limited. But it’s for the best, you should not take your own sits... if you know how to do sits and enforce rules you will be promoted rather quickly, it’s literally like probationary Officer.

@LilChicken They do

 

[Deleted member 5577]

@Samuel does that include IP or am I mistaken

 

[Murtsley]

@Samuel It's not like you're an enforcer for long if you're competent, I think I was an enforcer for 2 days before I became a moderator the first time then 6 hours the second

 

[Sam]

@Murtsley not really how it works these days

 

[Madda]

Denied

All of the points are pretty much summed up by @Samuel and @LEWIS 088 above. Enforcers are not supposed to do complex reports or reports that require logs (Unless they get a mod to supervise it). In addition to this, as mentioned by Samuel the logs contain large amounts of data.

 

[LEWIS 088]

@Murtsley The process is completely different now, you can expect to be an Enforcer for much longer unless you're a previous staff member.